THE OFFICIAL VNA EXERCIZE & FITNESS DEPARTMENT...

[WalterB]

Sorry about your knee. Did you hit the bag at all? When you kick at something like a bag, you do so with full force. If you miss the bag, your foot/leg/knee has nothing to "stop" it, so your knee slaps straight out, and the knee is what stops the movement once your leg is straight, in effect, trying to bend backwards, which, of course, it can't do. So, it sounds like you have severely strained the muscles and tendons associated with that knee. I'd stay off it for a couple days, with ice packs.

Dr. Walt

[stickyvicky]

So my knee is better, not perfect, it doesn't feel totally stable, I just be careful with it. My wrist is 90% better, but my elbow is still a little out of whack. We were learning a backwards surprise punch, I'd have to show you on cam, lol... basically you are facing the person and you spin around 360 degrees clockwise and hit him full force with the back of your right hand. Problem is if the distance is not just right you throw out your elbow. So I try to do it slow and gentle to learn it first but this teacher knows how hard I can hit, and he tells me to give it all I got each time. What an ass. He is going way too fast for everyone. It's like he wants to squeeze 2 years of boxing and mixed martial arts into an 8 week course. One girl quit already, she's not coming back because she hurt her wrist so bad. The other girl missed the last 2 classes because she ended up on her head after doing a running kick at the bag.

So the last class I was the only one there! I told him I'd rather box and learn combinations, I'm not so fond of all the kicks. He got pissed and said "oh are you the teacher, do you run the classes? You can't be a baby and only learn what you want, you can't pick and choose, you have to learn all of it." So I really tried my best, gave it my all, and ended up putting my back out. I think it would be better if we had a really heavy huge bag, that went to the floor, you know the ones that are filled with water? They don't move as much. Because being a newbie, it's when the bag is flying around and you have to time it and judge distance on the fly, that's when I get hurt. At the other boxing gym I used to go to (that's 30 -35 min away) we used to have a partner and hold the bags for each other, and only go solo on the massive heavy bags. I told this teacher that, and he said "do you think an opponent is going to just stand there and let you hit him? no he is going to bob and weave and move and you have to try to hit him." I think he is treating us like we are more advanced than we really are.

I was going to quit last week, but stupid me, I paid for the 8 week course in advance, lol.... I think I learned my lesson, I'm going back to my old boxing gym, even though it's further and I hate sitting in traffic, and I'll lost my money, but it's worth it. Right now I can't run or box or do much of anything. I'm walking around like a little old lady. They are much more professional and know what they are doing at my old gym. They've never had a single injury at least that I know of, since I started going there 2 years ago.

[WalterB]

That is like so many professionals out there. They may be good, but not really able to adjust their student's levels to the processes. You certainly can go too fast, especially with such serious training. You are right, if you don't like him, get away. If a lot of his students are getting hurt and quitting, that's a major indicator. Now, yesterday you hurt your back. Time to back off a bit and go at YOUR pace.

The things he said are right (an assailant isn't going to just stand there and let you kick him.) But, in training, you do not start at full bore. Sounds like he is an Advanced trainer, while you need more of a Beginner trainer.

PLease take care of that body. We don't want to see it broke (I assume you and Rokkerr don't, either. )

[stickyvicky]

Yeah, I talked to the training manager over there who is the guy I do my weights with, he agreed with me. He admitted they may have a problem and said "thank god we are insured in case anyone gets hurt seriously." That pissed me off even more. So good for you - you are insured. What about the pain and suffering of the girl who really gets hurt bad because of this moron? What if she has no insurance and can't work, and loses her job because of it? The other two girls who have been taking this class with me are both Hooters waitresses, lol... and they are both quitting. Maybe I can get my money back.

Regardless, I'm going back to my old gym even though it's a lot further, it's worth it. I already called them.....

PS. I have no idea where stiffy is, I haven't heard from him in a while, hope he's ok....

[WalterB]

Good deal on the old gym, Vicky. Sometimes we need to make trade-offs. Besides, you cruising thru traffic in your Vette? Or even in the jeep? Wow. ALL the lights will turn red, just so everyone can get a good look. "Oh, MAN, check out that hot blonde in the Black Vette!" heehee. I remember how good you look in both them cars. Hell, you even looked good in my old Toyota. lol. Just put on your favorite Rock and Roll and enjoy the ride.

I left Stiffy a PM. His profile says he was here as recently as August 4th.

[h0rnytoad1]

yeah that guy has a problem. he needs to review his job description.

i'm sorry you got hurt bad, he's very unpro. these kinds of things shouldn't happen in a gym, you're right to go back to the better one.

remind him you paid for training to get/stay in shape not world champ boxing.

[h0rnytoad1]

maybe this'll get the Stiffmeister back here?

[hotjulie]

OMG Vicky how can they train like that, it's stuff like that, that forces people out of the gym. When we train at Tae Kwon it's baby steps all the way. We make it fun to be there well most times, I'm not keen on giving a guy a piggy back ride across the do jang as fast as you can. You know what I mean though it's based on fun but pushing them at the same time. We do a move with a 360 just we kick instead, the idea is a kick to the head or upper body.

I have joined a gym, I'm getting out of shape. I haven't bench pressed for a while and I can only do 40kgs and my legs are real weak for me. I'm also trying to get work there

[stickyvicky]

Yeah my knee, wrist and elbow are still not back to normal, I can use them, I went to boxing bootcamp this morning (cause I felt really guilty about the massive quantities of ice cream last night), and my knee was swollen the rest of the day. I think in time, it will all be fine, but thank God I left that trainer when I did, cause I'm sure he wouldn't stop till he caused permanent damage.

[h0rnytoad1]

i found St1ffler, he's going city to city on the muscle tour, nobody told him to "travel light"?

[stickyvicky]

Carmen and I are going to a boxing fitness class this morning. It's at 9 am, and is a 100 station circuit. With 30 sec at each station, and the time in between stations they say it's going to take about 1 to 1.5 hours. That should help offset the 5000+ calories we are going to eat today! lol.. each station is jumping jacks, situps, pushups, burpees, hitting a bag, bicycle, etc....

When we come back to my house we are making chocolate/peanutbutter/marshmallow/butterscotch squares, and I made 4 pumpkin pies last night! One is already destroyed, lol....

[hotjulie]

That's gonna be an awesome workout, have a great time

[lilJebby]

HotJulie, that workout with Vicky and Carmen is to much for me. Rather just have you run ahead of me as I lust for your fine butt and hot legs and after working up a good sweet jump into bed and play for a week or more with you!





Bad Boy Jebby

[hotjulie]

We're going skiing today at Marmont Basin in ******, drove half the night to get here and I'm so excited! I haven't been skiing since April 09, so I'm gonna suck on skis. We've been waiting for the bus for over 1 hour so the best way to pass the time is to get it on in the truck

There's 19 runs open right now, and it's snowing so hard so should be perfect out there. First run I'm going on is a double black diamond run, so wish me luck. No sence starting off slow, gotta go for the rush and give her. I have my helmet Vicky, it's not my head I worry about hurting, it's my perfect body, so I have nothing to worry about it won't be crowded and I know some great places to stop for some action.

Finally back doing what I love so much!

[danamend]

Sounds like you will have a perfect weekend Julie! You & Gunther have a great weekend & don't break any bones.

[stickyvicky]

Good for you! Please please please be careful babe! I know it will come right back to you, it hasn't been that long and you such a great skier, but please don't pull a sonny bono on us! Damn I wish i was with you, don't think I could do a double black diamond though... maybe just a single black diamond..... Have fun!

[lilJebby]

HotJulie, Wish that I was with you on double black diamonds. Be careful, ware the helmet and you are skilled so hot body will be fine! Just go fast and steep. Below is a true ski adventure that I had Laura post back in 2009 when Vicky was headed to New Hampshire to go skiing.



Jebby

Vicky, Laura here typing for Trio. Now that you are hopefully safely home from skiing you must hear and almost unbelievable ski adventure that Jeb told us the other day when we saw your diary ski clip.

He was at a ski area not far from Loon Mt. practicing downhill racing with a ski team at speeds in excess of 60 mph (100 kph for some of you) when he got ahead of and split up on another trail from the group. When he realized this, he stopped under the chairlift that he knew the team would take back up the Mt.

After waiting a bit and being distracted from watching the lift for his friends by some girls asking about his helmet and hot racing outfit, he decide to head to the bottom and wait at the chairlift line for the team. Mind you where he had stopped was almost flat! He started down just sort of standing on his skies relaxed with poles dragging. About 40 feet down and traveling at less than 10 mph a teammate call to him from behind him on the chairlift. As Jeb turned to look over his left shoulder he caught the inside edge of his right ski and fell forward and stuck the left ski tip into soft snow and broke his leg!

Moral of this adventure so far is: 1. Hot woman distract guys from focusing on the task at hand (watching for his friends) and 2. Better to ski down the hill full speed at the brink of disaster than to go slow! See Rokkerr you would have been fine.

Now, this part should be in a book. Being in rural New Hampshire a few years back, the ambulance company that was called also ran hearses for local funeral homes. The call came in for an ambulance just after they had finished a funeral. Rather than waste time and drive many mountain miles back to get an ambulance, you guessed it, they picked him up in the hearse complete with left over flower petals on the floor!

Jeb thought, OMG the leg hurts like hell and now they are taking me straight to hell maybe for too many escapades with hot woman!!!

He came to at the hospital in a bit of a fog after the Dr. had set his leg. At first he thought that somehow maybe he had ended up in heaven and not hell. He looked down to see a blond Scandinavian nurse with huge Boobs trying to wash some cast plaster off of his balls. Right away, Jeb got a big woody. The nurse said "Wow, I have never seen someone in so much pain be so eager, You flatter me!"

So as you can see, all good escapades go full circle and get back to SEX!!!

PS Proff. Walt we are sure there may be typos!!!

[Rotten Rob]

So what goes on in here? Can't read 82 pages - but I am interested....

I just turned 40 3 months ago, and honestly, I feel like I'm in the worst shape of my life.

Where do I start? I belong to a gym that a pay $40 to a month to NOT workout.....

How about if I post my stats?

[hotjulie]

I had so much fun skiing, Vicky the only thing that I hurt was my pride. Got off the first chair lift and fell on my ass, then when I got up I slipped and fell again.

Rob, I think we all just try to inspire each other to be the best we can. To me I love to workout, weather it's skiing, throwing bales on the farm or going to the gym. I read what Vicky does and I wish I had her stamina! I cheer for everyone that says they did something in the gym or outside to get active! Vicky is the best example there is cause of her hectic life and still makes time to take care of herself!

Rob I always think about when I go to the gym is I say "I get to go, I never have to go!" when I was a trainer and guys would tell me how boring cardio was I'd whisper to them. "Get a machine behind some hottie and enjoy the view of her ass!" Was it wrong maybe but if it worked what the hell! Rob decide what you want and take baby steps to get there. Post your stats, I'm sure someone can inspire you, damn look at Vicky she's the perfect inspiration!

[Rotten Rob]

Height: 6' 2"
Weight: 244.7

This is as heavy as I have been since 2007.. Fuck - I even feel bloated....!

Guess I'll start small today - going to grab my iPod and go for a walk/run - it's raining a little - should be fun