Trump - The Hypocrisy

[catalina2]

from my point of view there were insults to go around. I am and was not disrespecting you but was making an attempt to engage in a logical argument. Before you bash me again for opposing Mr. Kahn, please do me the courtesy of reading Ayaan Hirsi Ali's THE HERETIC or INFIDEL. Then, perhaps, we can go forward with an intelligent discussion. btw, I don't see what Vicky as to do with this specific discussion.

[Anthony_JK]

Referring to your critics as "you people" and pushing the view that anyone of an Islamic faith is innately a terrorist, and assuming things about me simply because I challenged your "facts", is not the way to begin an intelligent conversation. Also, Vicky has plenty to do with this because 1) it's her board; and 2) she started the thread with a criticism of the hypocrisy of Melania as compared to Michelle Obama, which you choose to respond to. But, in the interest of maintaining comity in this board, I'll move on. Like I said, you have your opinion, and I have mine.

[catalina2]

I will let the readers of these posts draw their own conclusions. I suspect they will find the both of us at fault.

[stickyvicky]

I am sure that he personally enjoys porn. He just has to toe the party line.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/don ... e15eb701fc
http://nypost.com/2016/08/01/trump-vows ... rnet-porn/
http://www.complex.com/life/2016/08/don ... -president
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump ... le/2598269
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3102670/ ... -porn.html
http://heatst.com/politics/why-donald-t ... -ban-porn/
http://www.chron.com/news/nation-world/ ... 976017.php
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... ledge.html
that's just for starters. I'm not sure what HE really said himself, but the rest of the world sure thinks he said it. Republicans have traditionally been anti-porn, whereas Democrats have left us alone... just sayin....

I know this is going to derail this thread... lol.... maybe we should move it to the other thread...

[catalina2]

read all your links and I have to say I've never read such a collection of horseshit in my life. every one of those "organizations" you've included or are included in your links have distorted or appropriated Trump's name in the advancement of the religious right and/or are just plain haters - a portion of the republican party mired in the past much as the dems have communists/socialists mired in the past. Trump has NEVER, EVER made a statement that he is against pornography with one exception - children. The religious right considers Milania's work "porn". Does that give you a clue as to Donald's views?! who gives a good damn what the rest of the world thinks!! "I'm not sure what HE really said himself" says it all. Pls don't promulgate rumors, propaganda and lies. btw "just sayin" is the most obnoxious expression yet and I hope it dies a quick death.

[stickyvicky]

You have a problem with "The democrats have left us alone"? That's a generalization that most people would be inclined to agree with. Just sayin... hahaha... (wow you get worked up easy, good to know! Now I can push all your buttons!) I love to argue, I'll even argue both sides! Just for fun!

I wasn't promulgating rumors I was stating facts. I was even agreeing with you, as I said I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE SAID HIMSELF, BUT THE REST OF THE WORLD SURE THINKS HE SAID IT. I was actually agreeing with you so why are you arguing with me? It's a fucked up world. No one knows what the truth is about anything, everything is distorted and manipulated. It's just like Proposition 60, designed to fool the average Joe on the street into thinking he is doing a good thing for porners by voting for it, when in fact it's putting the last nails in our coffins.

[catalina2]

aha I have met a kindred spirit!!!!!!!!!

[WalterB]

I read the first 4 links and realized, in every one, they took one comment, and added more words to it to twist it around to promote their own agenda. He made comments about protecting against Child Porn, and in every instance I read, they turned it around to call it "against all porn." Total manipulation of the man's words. I'm not calling him right or wrong. But I haven't heard him say he was going to try to stop ALL porn.

(His side does the same thing with Hillary's words, altho Hillary has actually done bad things, like the email thing, about the Clinton foundation accepting political and foreign power donations, about only a small part of the contributions going to actual charities, and numerous others. Neither is perfect and it's hard to know where ether will take us. Trump is kind of a loose cannon, but I think he will learn as he goes on. I really do think he will attack serious problems and solve some serious problems. I also truly feel that Ms. Clinton is in the hip pocket of big business and will not be what we need. But, like the many people who voted for Obama because he is black, there will be many who will vote for Clinton because she's a woman, not because they think she'll make a good president. Ms. Clinton actually attacked Trump because he "forgot" some things. Then she turned around and "forgot" almost everything the Justice Dept asked her about her time as Sec. of State, and her email issues. She couldn't even remember if she had been briefed? Come on.)

[catalina2]

uhhhhh how dumb am I !? I thought I was "arguing" with edditmac. I sent a pm to him which should have gone to Vicky.
Glad to meet ya Vicky. We are essentially on the same page and enjoy debate for its ability to stimulate thought.
Nice to meet a rational democrat - you sure are in a conundrum re this election.....just sayin'

(eddiemac, disregard my pm pls)

[Andrew35]

Rational Democrat, you think there aren't that many lol, honestly I know people on either side of the party system that are pretty decent rational folks. I'm the type that doesn't follow any party lines and votes my conscience. But as the norm there has been less prosecution by democrats on porn but it really doesn't mean that either party is really pro porn either. But I'm not registered with either party but I'm also not an Independent either.

[WalterB]

You'll have to vote one way or the other, Andrew. Remember, "Your Voice, Your Vote."

I work for the Republican Party here so I pretty much have to vote for the Republican candidates, regardless. Check into what the latest date is that you can register, Andrew, then make that final decision.

All of you do that. Get registered, and VOTE. Please don't use the "I don't like either one" excuse. That may be true. I've been there, too. But, as a citizen, it's not only your right, it's pretty much an obligation. I didn't vote until I was over 65 years. Don't be like TheOldFart.

[Andrew35]

You'll have to vote one way or the other, Andrew. Remember, "Your Voice, Your Vote."

I work for the Republican Party here so I pretty much have to vote for the Republican candidates, regardless. Check into what the latest date is that you can register, Andrew, then make that final decision.

All of you do that. Get registered, and VOTE. Please don't use the "I don't like either one" excuse. That may be true. I've been there, too. But, as a citizen, it's not only your right, it's pretty much an obligation. I didn't vote until I was over 65 years. Don't be like TheOldFart.

Oh Walt I know that but I vote for the person not the party, I have voted for both Democrats and Republicans.

[WalterB]

I fully agree. Vote for the person, not for Hillary. OOPS, I meant, not for the Party, heeheehee. That's why I didn't specify anything. Personally, I have my beliefs. But, as an election judge, I don't care who people vote for, I just want to see them vote.

[Andrew35]

That's true, sad to see that turn out is very pathetic, not only nationally but even locally, last local election only 30 to 40 percent of the registered voters turn out to vote.

[WalterB]

Wow, 30% - 40% is a great turnout, Andrew. And, yes, that's still pathetic. We generally have less than 20% here. But I'm expecting November to be very heavy, both early voting and election day. 8 years ago I remember when we closed at 7, there were still 25 - 30 people in line. If they're in line, they get to vote. So we stay later to get that done. This time around, I'm expecting even more.

[catalina2]

geeez, Walt, you're like a reformed alcoholic with the voting business. lol We need more like you!!!!

[stickyvicky]

Where is my PM? It's easy to get us confused, but my tits are bigger than EddieMac's lol...

Yes it's a hellova situation. But I really do think that Hillary would sell the country to Monsanto and we will all die of various cancers as a result. All our food will be permeated with Roundup (glyphosphate), as it is now, all the GMO food has roundup in the cellular structure of the food, no amount of washing or peeling can remove the roundup that is grown into it. Everything you eat that is made from GMO corn or soy, which is almost everything causes premature aging, ADHD, Autism, Alzheimers, celiac disease, multiple sclerosis, Diabetes, Lymphoma, Parkinsons, Lou Gerigs Disease, immune system failure, endocrine disruption, organ damage, infertility, and birth defects, ground water contamination, killing off all sea life... it's already happening.... there is no getting away from it.... We are getting sicker and sicker...

I think Trump would have the balls to say Fuck You to Monsanto and others who right now are pulling all the strings in Washington. Hillary would just say "sure make a XX million dollars contributions to the Clinton Foundation and I'll vote any way you like on the new bills'...

[catalina2]

geeez, Vicky, I use RoundUp all the time on my lawn. lol damn, after reading your tirade I think I'll open my wrists and end it all. just teasing of course, I get where you're coming from. me, I just like my Twinkies and ho-ho's. give me those and I'm happy. yeah, I'm a junk food junky, but I love life. I can agree with you and still love life, right??
btw your tits are magnificent and in no way would I confuse you with Eddiemac whomever he is.

[WalterB]

Actually, Vicky has a handle on it. Living and breathing is what is killing us.

Just remember, in the days of the caveman, the average lifespan was around 30 or so. It has been steadily getting longer until today it's over 70 (thank the Lord, lol.) My belief is that the reason is advancements in the medical profession, expensive as they are. So, as Vicky says, the things we put into the air and on our food probably do contribute to early death. But the medical profession is constantly finding new ways to beat that.

Whether to believe it or not, I don't know, but the Bible says that, in the early days, people lived 800 - 900 years. Who knows? I don't think I'd want to live 900 years. But 100 wouldn't be so bad, as long as I could still get around at least somewhat well and not be a vegetable in a wheel chair. You know, as long as I could still get to conventions and watch Vicky and the girls get naked.

[catalina2]

900 years!!!! maybe I'll give up the Twinkies!