That DOSE IT! Exit Stage RIGHT! <<<<< JEB IS BANNED

[fused85]

...I wasnt sure should I write something, but here it goes. It seems many of you have already said good points: No one should not be rude to girls or members. If you dont like someones camshow just log off or dont write anything if you dont have nothing nice to say. Just try to get along people....Now I just wonder why I havent kicked out of camshows...Now noticed it! I have miss lots of camshow lately..

[carl goldfinger]

What a pity! I thought, since Jebby found Lisa, he became a little bit more serious... not being Jebby the bad boy anymore... becoming Jebby, the relaxed gent.

& now this!...again!...&again...&again...?.?.?...did anyone recognize that this always happened in a period of about six month?
Hm?
Never knew that men have periods? WTF???

I think Walt is right! Jebby has too many alter egos & he should throw them out to come back to some "semi normality", like Rokkerr said.

& a big, big apologize to Kenzie

& that what makes me really sad is the "money" point!
More than 33 girls in the VNA?
That for xyz $?
You would give your last buck or a million $ if you love a woman...& never talk about it...
They are human beings...not objects.
The girls go naked for us...to take off your clothes means to take of your "suit of armor"...you are unprotected... you are helpless!!!
It is an invitation for having sex... a deep honest & personal moment!
It is a big benefit & a big honor that the girls do it for us.
They owe our highest respect.

Has Jebby crossed the point of no return?
Sould we Jebby welcome back when he spend some time in probation?

I think a society needs extreme people, like Marilyn Manson etc...or Jebby...
They stimulate us to acertain & to define the points of no return, again & again, to see, what should be acceptable...what should be "normal".
If they go to a clear point of no return we have to stop them, of course.

Give him a last chance, Rokker & Vicky.

Carl

PS: My heart is is split in two parts in Jebby's case:
One says: He is a dear (but crazy) idiot, forgive him...
& the other says: There is no credit on crime... as we like to judge in Germany.
hm...

[WalterB]

Have you read the first page, Carl? A lot is explained there.

For those who don't know the history, this has gone on for far too long. Back in the Camz days, Laura, of LauraJeb&Sue was the typist. The exact same type of comments and style. Eventually, LJS was banned there. Then "Jebby" figured out how to get around that. They were banned again. He got back again. Banned again. This cycle went on several times until Camz figured out how to block him permanently.

So, he moved on over here (he had been a member for years, having joined in Sept, 2007,) comtinuing the same inane banter (as Laura.) Finally, Jeb decided to join the fray. So, he created another account and started posting, sometimes as Laura, on rare occasion as Sue, and as Jeb. If I remember correctly, he might have been booted once. I know he went away once or twice, but always came back. He has been asked many, many times to tone it down. But that has never worked.

So, finally the straw that broke the camels back. From what Rokkerr is saying, he may try to convince Vicky some day to let him back. I know that Vicky thinks now that she'll let him back the day Walt shuts up ( ? What?) Oops, I mean, the day Hell freezes over. And, I tend to agree. especially after he wrote the email he did, shortly after complaining to CCBill that Vicky had banned him "for no reason" and got his money back. Does he think that Vicky doesn't know these things?

Nope! I agree that enough is enough. Vicky is by far the nicest, sweetest person I've ever known (in 70 years,) and she certainly does not need OR deserve this aggravation.

Jebby had his chance - several of them. But his chances have run out.

[carl goldfinger]

Have you read the first page, Carl? A lot is explained there.

For those who don't know the history, this has gone on for far too long. Back in the Camz days, Laura, of LauraJeb&Sue was the typist. The exact same type of comments and style. Eventually, LJS was banned there. Then "Jebby" figured out how to get around that. They were banned again. He got back again. Banned again. This cycle went on several times until Camz figured out how to block him permanently.

Yes, Walt. I've read the whole story in this thread.
I remember a similar post like Jebby's first here in another thread where he complained about this & that & all the money he spent for....etc...etc... he left & came back a few weeks later.
Vicky was pissed about that but didn't react seriously, as far as I remember.
But I didn't know about Jebby's camz history, Walt, because it was before my time here.

In this case you are right, Walt.
He will do it again & again...the VNA is done with Jebby...

Carl

[rokkerr]

We all have a few screws loose... me included.
Hopefully he finds what he is looking for... everyone deserves respect and love, so if he comes back in true peace, I am not against it.
We can hit the 'block' button again....

I do think it will be months until he comes around if at all....

By the way... I know one member who called a girl a bitch, got blocked and banned and now is happily back in good graces. I rush not to judgment.....

[Vince]

WOW, can't believe Jeb did something like that.

[WalterB]

I didn't call her a "Bitch," Rokkerr, I said, "Vicky gives me an "itch."

(kidding, folks. It wasn't me.)

[John_fromNY]

Some, if not all, cam companies know exactly who you are as soon as you enter a cam room... They are based on the IP Address that is given at signup ... anyway that's how Rachel Aziani, Nikki Nova, Naughty Allie, Catalina Cruz, Sienna West, Naughty America and some Streamate performers are. Not sure about LiveJasmin.com however. I do know that with Rachel Aziani, Nikki Nova, Catalina Cruz and Sienna West, along with Streamate - when your IP Address changes, mine changes every three months as that is what Verizon's agreement calls for - they do know about it.

Now with regard to Jeb -- those highly rude comments he made... I could just imagine... That's also uncalled for, and he should know better. If he comes along later to make excuses that it was Laura and Sue, and to blame them - that is also not right. Then to top it all off, to chargeback his credit card that's also unfair to this website and that would get him banned. It would at NA, Brazzers, Bang Brothers, and other networks. The VNA should be no exception. He did it and Jeb has to take responsibilty here.

It's sad that he has to go. We may miss him now. But in the long run, we won't miss him. Sorry, but that's life. He has to be terminated.

Wow. My long-time cam friends are dwindling down. First Heyow. Now Jeb. Guys are really losing it. But the thing is - if a guy can't be civil and nice - then don't even bother to show up for a live cam show.

[h0rnytoad1]

think he was just backed up from not having st1ffy and me to abuse, i mean play with. (not that i took him seriously, its just banter)

it had to come out some other way. but seriously like Q said : Don't provoke the Borg !

And he thought I needed to go outside more What a maroon !

[vectis]

So the reason Laura &Sue were never seen is because they never exsisted ,only in the mind of their creator, All that fuss so long ago with CamsFL (as Laura) ,all bogus ,I think the man needs help but i doubt that he'll seek it. Sounds harsh but it's probably for the best if his ban is permanent.

[rokkerr]

I don't know for sure one way or the other if L&S were real or not.... I have seen stranger things in porn...
If you have the money, you can have lots of 'friends'....

... I guess we will never know for sure...

[John_fromNY]

So the reason Laura &Sue were never seen is because they never exsisted ,only in the mind of their creator, All that fuss so long ago with CamsFL (as Laura) ,all bogus ,I think the man needs help but i doubt that he'll seek it. Sounds harsh but it's probably for the best if his ban is permanent.

Laura definitey existed, as did Sue at one time ... You can tell. Different writing style than when the "Jeb" personna logged on. However, sometimes Jeb did log on as Laura and Sue and vice versa, Laura as Jeb. The writing syle is totally different. Absurd at times because he tends to curse more, be more abusive to HT and Stiffy. About politics, that's very hard, because both he and Laura are so anti-Obama and argumentative to our Anthony here.

Laura and Sue's avatar ... they did try to hide their personas. Didn't they? As the busty brunette on the left is of course, Cloe Vevrier, in a very old photo gallery from http://www.chloesworld.com. It is off the Chloe Vevier Score website and the gallery has been off to close to a decade. They do not do updates to the site, so you'll really never get to see that photo gallery there. Still to this day, I am still unable to determine who the blondes on the right are (representing Laura and Sue.)

I may have to take the avatar picture over to the other place (the ID Babe Forum) to get an answer on them....

[WalterB]

I never saw that difference in writing style/grammer, John. To me they were all one and the same. Any differences could be accounted for even if they were the same person. Any differences were, to me, so small as to possibly be one person trying to be two different people.

[rokkerr]

....we will all never really never know because on of the avatars they swore was them was from a Naughty Allie pool party!!

LOL.....

[stickyvicky]

One time here they posted a picture from naughty allie's website and said it was them. It was a pool party pic, with about 15 girls in it, anyone remember that? I didn't say anything cause I didn't want to embarass them, but I recognized it right away from her site.

omg rokker just beat me to this post.... i got distracted before pressing enter...

[John_fromNY]

I never saw that difference in writing style/grammer, John. To me they were all one and the same. Any differences could be accounted for even if they were the same person. Any differences were, to me, so small as to possibly be one person trying to be two different people.

Bravo. You did say that over and over many times throughout the years. Though I honestly thought that I found some differences in their writings at one time. Long ago.

So the main consensus is that he was one person playing several characters, like Sybil or The Three Faces of Eve.... [Note that Joanne Woodward was in both films] ... Strange!



Although, it's really water under the bridge at this point in time.

[John_fromNY]

....we will all never really never know because on of the avatars they swore was them was from a Naughty Allie pool party!!

LOL.....

One time here they posted a picture from naughty allie's website and said it was them. It was a pool party pic, with about 15 girls in it, anyone remember that? I didn't say anything cause I didn't want to embarass them, but I recognized it right away from her site.

omg rokker just beat me to this post.... i got distracted before pressing enter...

That's hilarious.... another person who found it (he sent me the link in a PM) .... none other than Stiffy, the Stiffmeiser.

[rokkerr]

Look... I dunno what's up.... whoever Jeb was/is... he seemed to be hetro.

For a hetro to engage in faking to be a girl and having long chats about guys dicks..... seems bizarre.
It seemed at times there were real girls using the account.... unless Jeb was bisexual...

... I am overthinking this.... lol

[John_fromNY]

Look... I dunno what's up.... whoever Jeb was/is... he seemed to be hetro.

For a hetro to engage in faking to be a girl and having long chats about guys dicks..... seems bizarre.
It seemed at times there were real girls using the account.... unless Jeb was bisexual...

... I am overthinking this.... lol

Post of the month!

[WalterB]

I found the Naughty Allie Pool picture several years ago. I even joined the site just so I could write Allie to ask. I thought it was an innocent, respectful message, but never got an answer. Even the picture doesn't prove it wasn't them at the pool party, but I had my doubts.

The Naughty Allie Pool pic deal reminded me of the British girl (HornyDevil?) who put up a picture and alluded that she was one of the Celtic Woman singing group. Several members (including me) went gaga over that, and she quickly got quiet.

Folks, it's ok to have an anonymous identity if you wish, but if you claim to be someone you aren't, chances are, you'll be found out,