Another Scare?

[WalterB]

Looks like another shutdown, according to this.

http://www.xbiz.com/news/172188

[CGYMike]

If I'm not mistaken this is # 3 or #4 in the past year or so.

Has this not all started after LA County started their crackdown on condoms in film? Looks like a few people have decided that it's the wild west out there and are not getting tested the way they should.

I'm not an expert on the in's and outs of the porn industry (no pun intended) but there are a few unprofessional amateurs out there who are taking a big dump where they eat (pun intended) and are killing the industry for people who know what the hell they are doing.

[stickyvicky]

Yeah I really feel bad for the girls in LA who depend on these shoots to make car payments and rent. What a crazy business... makes it even more obvious why these girls should focus on their websites more than shooting for others because the websites will keep on earning when the commercial studio biz can come and go.

[Gert-Jan]

http://www.mikesouth.com/mike-south-com ... this-8868/

[TheShaft]

http://www.mikesouth.com/mike-south-com ... this-8868/

I agree with Mike South on that condoms make the industry safer but I also think it will cause a big downturn in business, at least in the short term.

[stickyvicky]

Didn't know TJ Cummings shot on the gay side as well. In my personal opinion, that is a bigger problem. The hiv rate on the gay side is so high they don't even test. If they tested no one would ever be available to work. I totally believe in testing, but not 30 days. Crossover would be ok, but the test has to be a maximum of 10 - 14 days or less. They have a swab for the inside of your cheek now that gives results in 20 min. Everyone could swab once they got to the set, and while makeup and paperwork was being done they'd get the results. Then no one would ever be exposed. How perfect right? I don't think it's that expensive either, I mean we are talking about our lives.

[carl goldfinger]

Yeah I really feel bad for the girls in LA who depend on these shoots to make car payments and rent. What a crazy business... makes it even more obvious why these girls should focus on their websites more than shooting for others because the websites will keep on earning when the commercial studio biz can come and go.

Yes, Vicky
I totally agree with you. The studios risk nothing and they have a big pool of wannabes & wannatries.
They should be more resposible for the actor's security!
They start their projects. They get all the money. Thus, they should be liable for personal injuries in their projects!

Trying to get a living by a website is very hard, but I think this is a more healthy way to get an income.
The girl has control over her own security.
There are so many. How can a girl make a website more profitable, that she can live of it?

Good question... I think...



Carl

Oops...I forgot to ask ... Is there any other job which offers surviving or dying for a penny?
I don't think so.

[stickyvicky]

Mike South reports that he even tried to book content/cam shoots with a girl after he knew he was hiv positive? I sure hope that is not true?

[wshandcock]

This was on a a post in Mike south blog. See below If this is accurate its very telling saying that that the risk oh HIV transmission is greater in Male on male sex than straight hetero sex is not gay bashing not sure why people will take a fact and turn it into some kind of 'Anti XXXXX " cause. If i say traditionally Americans have been taller than Japanese people is that a racist statement or just a fact I would love to know other peoples opinion

There’s nothing wrong about being Gay. Unfortunately and sadly the Gay community is way more affected by HIV, that’s a fact. Most Gay studios do not use testing and that’s crazy. Fact. Looking at the previous incidents in this industry:
- Derrick Burts ( Did Gay porn and escorting )
- Cameron Bay ( dated Gay porn performer and gay escort Rod Daily )
- Rod Daily ( Gay male talent and escort )
- Sofia DelGado ( close friend of Cameron Bay who dated Gay pornstar Rod Daily )
- Tj Cummings ( Did gay porn )
One can’t help but noticing a pattern here.
- The Gay community in general is way more affected by HIV.
- ALL pornstar that caught HIV the last 8 years had a direct link to Gay sex.
The real issue here is ALL Gay studios should use testing period. Straight porn agencies must consider the fact that crossover performers are a greater risk of infections and stop booking their talents with such performers.
Straight Adult agencies and Gay studios are the ones that should change their ways after this. The straight industry although not perfect has come a long way already by adding new Std’s to the panel and moving to a 14 day window.
Turn for straight Adult Agencies and Gay studios to do their part.

[stickyvicky]

I have had heated arguments about this with other girls. I mean really heated. It became very emotional. I was called homophobic which is ridiculous cause I'm not. I just think facts are facts and you have to make decisions based on facts not emotions, or "being fair". The person I had the argument with, said, why should a crossover male performer be treated any different than a straight performer? If our rules are 30 day testing then if they have a valid 29 day old test, you should work with them. I said never. Over 60% of the gay performers are hiv positive. It's just a fact. I might never work with them. They would be on my NO list. Problem is a lot of them hide the fact that they do it, use a different name, or maybe just gay escort on the side and you would never know. So it brings me back to what I have been saying since 2004. Go to 2 week testing, or even 1 week testing if you can. If a test is one week old, even if they became hiv positive 6 days ago, it's not contagious yet so you are safe. If I remember correctly, the Bunny Ranch and the other ranch where Jayla Diamond worked a few times, they all tested every single week. They figured out how to keep everyone safe, why can't we?

[Anthony_JK]

The real and fundamental issue for me isn't gay sex or "crossover" male talent imposing HIV onto the "straight' industry. Plenty of crossover men have done straight porn, and managed to stay clean and not threaten anyone.

The REAL issue is that the gay side of the industry refuses to institute full scale testing and screening of their talent to remove the possibility of infection, and that groups like AHF are so opposed to universal testing across the board because it interferes with their condom crusade (and the big buck deals they can get and sponsorship they could receive from the condom companies.

It also does not help matters when agents and production companies collude together to undermine the testing and moratorium system for quick profits. Yes, Porno Dan Leal and Shy Love, I am pointing directly at YOUR sorry asses.

Read here: http://therealpornwikileaks.com/porno-d ... oratorium/

Also, if you are a performer and don't have enough respect for yourself to manage your off-set encounters and protect yourself, you probably need not to be in this business.

[Anthony_JK]

This was on a a post in Mike south blog. See below If this is accurate its very telling saying that that the risk oh HIV transmission is greater in Male on male sex than straight hetero sex is not gay bashing not sure why people will take a fact and turn it into some kind of 'Anti XXXXX " cause. If i say traditionally Americans have been taller than Japanese people is that a racist statement or just a fact I would love to know other peoples opinion

There’s nothing wrong about being Gay. Unfortunately and sadly the Gay community is way more affected by HIV, that’s a fact. Most Gay studios do not use testing and that’s crazy. Fact. Looking at the previous incidents in this industry:
- Derrick Burts ( Did Gay porn and escorting )
- Cameron Bay ( dated Gay porn performer and gay escort Rod Daily )
- Rod Daily ( Gay male talent and escort )
- Sofia DelGado ( close friend of Cameron Bay who dated Gay pornstar Rod Daily )
- Tj Cummings ( Did gay porn )
One can’t help but noticing a pattern here.
- The Gay community in general is way more affected by HIV.
- ALL pornstar that caught HIV the last 8 years had a direct link to Gay sex.
The real issue here is ALL Gay studios should use testing period. Straight porn agencies must consider the fact that crossover performers are a greater risk of infections and stop booking their talents with such performers.
Straight Adult agencies and Gay studios are the ones that should change their ways after this. The straight industry although not perfect has come a long way already by adding new Std’s to the panel and moving to a 14 day window.
Turn for straight Adult Agencies and Gay studios to do their part.

Just a friendly reminder: HIV is a virus, not a sexual orientation or a behavior. Anyone who is active sexually should protect themselves through testing and honesty towards their partners....whether they be straight or gay or poly.

[wshandcock]

Anthony Fully aware that HIV is a Virus not an orientation .Growing up and being Single in NYC in late 80's & 90's i lived thru lots of people i know being infected and affected by this both gay and straight . I hope that I in no way implied that someones orientation was at fault. but there are risk factors that expanded with certain behaviors . My point was that according to the post in Mike Souths blog the recent rash of HIV positive results share a common thread

[wshandcock]

Anthony Fully aware that HIV is a Virus not an orientation .Growing up and being Single in NYC in late 80's & 90's i lived thru lots of people i know being infected and affected by this both gay and straight . I hope that I in no way implied that someones orientation was at fault. but there are risk factors that expanded with certain behaviors . My point was that according to the post in Mike Souths blog the recent rash of HIV positive results share a common thread

[Gert-Jan]

Here we go again....

http://www.xbiz.com/news/184178

http://therealpornwikileaks.com/informa ... tive-test/

[stickyvicky]

Yeah this couldn't have possibly happened at a worse time for us. TeamBJ will likely not be happening.

She retested again yesterday to be sure it wasn't a false positive. Those results should be in around 12 noon PST today. All the first generation contacts have been notified and asked to test. 2nd generation after that? Just to be safe? Most porn girls escort as much, or more than they shoot porn. Unfortunately that is the case for a lot of performers these days, thank you Manwin, thank you tube sites and thank you to everyone who downloads stolen porn. This is the end result. Our industry has been decimated to the point that I know longer even recognize it. I used to believe in the system we had, I used to be against condoms because when I was shooting for commercial studios our system actually worked, I felt safe (or reaonably safe, as safe as you could be in that industry), it especially should have worked with the increase to 2 week testing. But the landscape has changed so much. With all the crossover back and forth from gay to straight porn, everyone and I mean everyone male and female out escorting, and so many part time amateur performers with risky personal habits, it's a different world now. It's not the place I fondly remember. So I would have to say that I have changed my opinion. If you don't use a condom along with testing now you are nuts. I'm even afraid to shoot with women now... I consider my shoots very carefully.

So I know that they are contacting all her porn partners since her last test, but what about all her escort clients? Will they be contacted? They should be. If not they are bringing it to their wives, girlfriends and everyone else...

[Anthony_JK]

Vicky....usually, they don't test second-generation partners unless one of the 1st-gen partners ends up positive or "reactive". So far, that hasn't been necessary, since no other 1st-gen partner since 2004 has been found to have tested positive or to have been infected on set.

The first thought that crept into my mind when I first heard this was: Is this yet another attempt by the AIDS Healthcare Foundation's goons to pollute the adult performer pool with one of their "crossover" moles to infect female performers via escorting or other off-the-clock activity, so that they can use the uproar and the lost wages of the moratorium to push their mandatory condom agenda? If it can happen with Rod Daily and Derrick Burts, it can so easily happen here as well...especially with the LA porn scene driven so underground thanks to Measure B and attempts like AB 1576 (the last condom mandate law that was killed by the California Senate).

I still think that the FSCPASS system is working as it should to prevent isolated performer infections from becoming full-on outbreaks; removing that in favor of condoms only + less stingent testing using unreliable tests only increases the risk of more serious outbreaks by promoting the lie of condoms as the only sure means of protection. It's goal is NOT to prevent individual performers from getting infected in their off-screen lives...that should be their responsibility, as it should anyone who is sexually active in real life.

[Gert-Jan]

FSC confirms false positive in HIV case. Moratorium has been lifted.

http://www.xbiz.com/news/184221

[stickyvicky]

That poor girl, can you imagine the hell she was in for 24 hours?

[Gert-Jan]

A possible HIV exposure on an out-of-state (non-California) set. Reliable sources inform TRPWL the alleged exposure did not occur in Florida.

http://therealpornwikileaks.com/3-day-m ... um-called/
http://www.xbiz.com/news/186377