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July 10th, 2013, 5:33 pm

Ruddy and Chelsea?! Good thing I know about the homegrown player rule, otherwise I'd start sending a few shrinks to Stamford Bridge, lol.

Try pronouncing "Papasthatopoulos" 10 times in 30 seconds. If you succeed doing so, you'll never forget his name ever again. Trust me, it works! :lmao:

No Football matches, so we might as well continue linking players to clubs and clubs to players.....
  • Wilfried Bony: Vitesse ~~> Swansea City (€14m)
  • Leon Goretzka: Bochum ~~> Schalke (18 y/o ... one of the biggest German talents)
  • Jozy Altidore: AZ Alkmaar ~~> Sunderland (€9.8m of which 20% gets transferred back to his old club Villarreal)
  • Giovanni Dos Santos: Real Mallorca ~~> Villarreal (Mexican who failed so many times already)
  • Bojan Krkic: Barcelona ~~> Ajax (on loan)
  • Leroy Fer: Twente ~~> Norwich City (around €5m)
  • Gerard Deulofeu: Barcelona ~~> Everton (On loan. Huge talent. Recently signed a new contract in Spain containing a €35m buy-out clause.)
In addition, it looks like PSV are gonna lose another important player, but will get another LOAD of money in return. Kevin Strootman seems to be moving from PSV to AS Roma. They are willing to pay between €16m - €20m, that's just insane! Both clubs have an agreement, Strootman and Roma are now negotiating about the terms of his contract.

Belgian international Nacer Chadli (FC Twente) is being linked to.... Tottenham Hotspur. Left winger, right winger, midfielder; multifunctional player.

Oh, and one final thing, what's the latest on Gascoigne? Should we prepare for the worst?
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July 11th, 2013, 1:55 pm

Well Norwich turned down a second £6m bid for Ruddy so Chelsea turned to 40 year old Mark Schwarzer on a free transfer from neighbours Fulham. Probably a more reliable choice as backup than Ross Turnbull, but it does leave yet another homegrown hole in Chelsea's squad. Maybe they will just try to list 25 players and hope no one notices lol.

I think I could have Papasthatopoulos tattooed onto my penis and I'd still struggle to remember how to write his name haha :-p

Yep, things are kicking into gear now with transfers. I believe that Bony has now completed his move to Swansea, so I guess they must have worked their way through the agent's web somehow! Should be a good signing for them.

Altidore had a spell a couple of years back in England with Hull City where he didn't exactly set the league on fire. I understand he's had a good couple of seasons with AZ though, so it will be interesting to see how he fares this time around. Big fee for him though!

The Dos Santos transfer is an interesting one as when we sold him to Mallorca the fee was a heavily discounted £3m, but with a 50% sell on fee included. The curiosity comes with Villareal also buying Tomas Pina from Mallorca and the naughty suspicion that there may have been some shenanigans to reduce the Dos Santos fee and raise the Pina value so as to avoid paying us half of the £7m value. As far as I know nothing has been confirmed as official one way or the other yet, but could be something to keep an eye out for.

Bojan Krkic moving to Ajax could be just what he needs to kick start his faltering career. I remember when he first came through into the Barcelona side, big things were predicted of him, but never lived up to the hype. The last I heard of him was a move to Roma with a slightly strange deal where Roma either had to make a second payment of a crazy amount otherwise Barca could buy him back for less than they paid for him... or something like that anyway ;) Would be nice if Ajax could work their magic on him and get him back into limelight again.

Leroy Fer - potentially a good signing for Norwich? Would be link up well with van Wolfswinkel?

Deulofeu - looking forward to seeing him in action. Normally wouldn't have seen Everton as the most ideal club for a Barcelona player to come on loan, but with Martinez there now he could really excel.

Wow, that's big money for Strootman! The press over here have been linking him with Manchester United, but it seems he has distanced himself from that story. I imagine that PSV pretty much couldn't refuse that offer?

I was going to ask you about Chadli. It seems that AVB is looking for a player who can play left wing, attacking midfield and get goals. Do you think he would be a good acquisition for us?

The sad tale of Gazza looks like it will never have a happy ending I'm afraid :( The problem with him is that he's far too eager to please people, no matter who they are. So not only is he battling so many of his alcohol demons, he puts added pressure on himself to appear at events, etc and unfortunately to deal with the nerves/stress he ends up turning to the booze. The only way he will ever survive is if some kind of minder is with him literally 24 hours a day taking care of him. Because just weeks after coming out of the highly publicised rehab session, he's back and left to his own devices. For a man who has the attention span of a small child, he just can't stay settled on his own and needs to surround himself with people. Of course, you can imagine where the first place one might look to find a group of friendly faces who will laugh and joke all day...
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July 12th, 2013, 5:24 pm

You mentioned 40-year old Schwarzer.... Friedel comes to mind, another OLD goalkeeper. Is the American still "playing" for Spurs? What's his age? lol

Leroy Fer fits the Premier League perfectly. He has the same radius and is just as strong as Fellaini. Nacer Chadli is as fast as a Formula 1 car and his opponent will have a tough time playing against him. Here in Holland we always compare him to Bryan Ruiz, who went from Twente to Fulham couple years ago, but in my opinion, Chadli is better. More all-round. If this transfer does go through and he's going to London, I'm really interested to hear what you think of him after 5 matches or so. He's part of the national team as well.... Belgium are now ranked 10th in the world btw. (And why the hell are Colombia 3rd on that FIFA world ranking?!)

If PSV are able to collect €20m for Strootman, they'd be fools NOT to sell him. You're totally right about that. Little problem occurred though as PSV want a bank guarantee from Roma and that seems to be a problem, lol. Wise decision to ask for one, cause clubs in Italy have a history of paying years after the player has been transferred. Status quo for now.

Money ain't a problem for Real Madrid. Sit down or else you're likely to faint. Illarramendi is moving from Real Sociedad to Madrid for €38m! Image

Lastly, before I'm gonna kick off my weekend, Southampton pay €14m to take over Celtic player Wanyama, who scored a famous header against Barca.
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July 15th, 2013, 11:40 am

Hope you had a good weekend Gert :) I unexpectedly was given a ticket for the fifth day of the Ashes Test at Trent Bridge, so I had the privilege of watching England beat the Aussies on a beautiful sunny day :D

Age just doesn't seem to be a barrier for goalkeepers these days does it? Friedel is probably as good as he has ever been and is ideal as our backup. He is still a brilliant shot stopper, but his problem these days is he doesn't handle coming off his line too well, meaning he is vulnerable when we play a high defensive line. I think Chelsea have been pretty smart in picking up Schwarzer really as he's a free transfer and one would imagine on relatively small wages, plus happy enough to play second fiddle to Cech.

Norwich seem to be spending a lot of time scouting in Holland - they are being linked with Toby Alderweireld now. I'd be interested to hear your opinion on Alberweireld actually as he's been linked with numerous teams over here at levels from Manchester United and Arsenal, through Spurs and now to teams like Southampton and Norwich. Has his stock started to drop for any particular reason?

The rumour mongers on the Spurs forums are saying that Chadli is very much on the cards, although he is potentially seen as 'plan b' rather than first choice. But I like the sound of him being super fast and also knowing where the back of the net is.

Columbia are probably 3rd in the world rankings for the same reason England were ranked 5th up until the last update... They make little sense lol!

I was going to say I wonder where the heck Roma are suddenly getting all of this money from! You can't blame PSV for being ultra careful as how many teams have we seen recently (mostly in England, admittedly) go to the wall financially?

But then speaking of finances, yeah I couldn't quite believe my eyes when I saw Madrid had signed Illarramendi for that much! Financial Fair Play is really making an instant impact, huh? :-p

Congratulations to Southampton for getting Wanyama as I think he's a pretty decent player and he is another one who 'bigger' teams were circling 6-12 months ago. I suppose the relatively high transfer fee has put them off now though and it's a sign of the large amount of money floating around the Premier League right now that club like Southampton can feel safe in spending so much on one player.

Some interesting developments over the weekend, mainly Fulham being sold to billionaire Shahid Khan. I saw his press interviews on tv and have to say he seems like a pretty decent guy. I initially had fears for Big Martin Jol but I got the feeling he genuinely would be given a chance. Khan is making all the right noises for Fulham fans about taking them to 'the next level', so they could well be ones to keep an eye on in the transfer market over the next couple of months.

A rather curious potential transfer concerns Adel Taarabt at QPR. Apparently they are looking to loan him out for the season and don't wish to sell him. One must assume they plan on getting promotion this coming season and then will want him back.

News this afternoon is that Manchester United have bid £25m for Cesc Fabregas, which hasn't been rejected but one assumes Barca will expect to see at least closer to £30m for him? I find the Barcelona situation very intriguing right now as they have sold Thiago Alcantara to Bayern Munich for €25m and now they are not ruling out selling Fabregas. It makes you wonder if they are planning on making another big signing, or if they simply feel confident in other youth players to come through and replace Xavi and Iniesta over the next couple of years?

And finally, just because I know you LOVE to hear about potential Spurs signings ;) The latest news is that we may well have 90% agreed a deal with Aston Villa for Christian Benteke. After the disappointment of David Villa, I'm most definitely not counting my chickens on this one just yet... Fee will almost certainly be £20m+ so yet another club record if it comes off. I'm sure we will come back to this one as and when things develop, but it's safe to say I will be very excited if we close the deal.
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July 15th, 2013, 6:07 pm

Yep, had a good weekend. Summer has finally arrived. Continuous sunshine, beach, ice cream, water, women.... you get the picture, lol.

It's interesting to see Bayern Munich taking over Alcantara today, cause while I was laying on the beach and after I had inspected every inch of a certain woman's body, I read a small article about Barca. It's not just Thiago and Fabregas, but also guys like Muniesa (Stoke), Fontas (Celta), Jonathan Dos Santos (Anderlecht), Deulofeu (Everton) and Bojan (Ajax). All have been with Barcelona since a very young age, but not getting a real chance, simply cause so many positions are taken; Busquets, Iniesta, Xavi, Messi, Neymar. It says everything that a quality striker such as David Villa was sitting on the bench most of the time, while Zlatan couldn't get adjusted either. Great signing from Bayern perspective, but curious to see whether he is going to get a real chance in Munich. Midfield is pretty full there too....

Toby Alderweireld is a Belgian defender who can well be compared to Vertonghen and Vermaelen. Not to sound negative or anything, but in my opinion, Alderweireld isn't as good as the other two. He's a great passer, but lacking speed. Meaning that a team which plays a high defensive line should NOT buy him. He's faster than a turtle though, lol. Defending is something you do with your whole team and which isn't done by just one player. It starts with the striker and wingers, if they refuse to be aggressive and attack the defenders of the opponent, the gap between attack/midfield/defense will simply become too big. Okay, maybe I should just let Shearer and Hansen come up with the tactical analysis. I heard Alan has left Match Of The Day?

Back to Alderweireld. Bayer Leverkusen were interested 1 to 1.5 month ago, but didn't go through with it cause he was too expensive for them. Norwich and Ajax even had an agreement last week (€8m), but this time the player refused to join Norwich, cause that club isn't good enough for "Mr I am part of the Belgian national team and I think I can get better than Norwich City". You're right that he is being linked to tons of clubs, but his stock didn't drop. Ajax are still asking around €8m to whomever is making inquiries. Doubtful if Man United and Arsenal are really interested in signing him. Supply and demand. Happens all the time. :icon_wink:
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July 16th, 2013, 3:30 pm

Forget about Alderweireld and Barca, Gert-Jan, you need to tell us more about this particular beach beauty you were studying! :icon_jiggle:

But if you insist on talking about football ;) I suppose that for Thiago, the draw is playing under Guardiola and in the same respect, Thiago is appealing to Pep for having 'one of his own' in the dressing room. And also when you've just taken over a team that is arguably the best around right now, I guess the only way you can attempt to improve it is by adding more quality in depth. Only time will tell though how much game time he gets and who he replaces.

The potential Fabregas deal intrigues me as I can't for the life of me understand why Barcelona would want to let him go, or why he would want to leave. I hear the latest comments are that Fabregas doesn't want to leave and Barca don't want to let him go... but the whole thing sounds fishy to me and one could easily assume that perhaps Barcelona are holding out for something like £35m?

Big transfer news the could potentially set off a little chain reaction with PSG splashing out €63m on Edinson Cavani. This leaves Ibrahimovic possibly on his way out of PSG and Napoli with wheelbarrows of cash to burn on a striker. Call me mischievous, but I would be delighted if we saw Napoli sneak in and pinch Higuain, Manchester City sign one of Saldado or Negredo and Spurs tie up Benteke without a fuss leaving Arsenal to panic and spend £35-40m on Suarez as you just know he would cause plenty of trouble and controversy for them :fighting: and hopefully see Wenger retreat back into his shell of spending large sums of money :-devil:

Out of interest Gert, what is your opinion on Cavani? For me, he's undoubtedly got talent, is big and powerful, but potentially wastes chances? Certainly worth a high value, but nowhere near the €63m PSG have paid.

I don't think that Alan Shearer has left MoTD just yet, but is sounds like the BBC are planning to rotate pundits next season. I'd send them your CV mate, or even better, just link them to this thread :)

Finally for today, the Wayne Rooney saga has taken another turn this evening with Sky Sports claiming Rooney has told them he is "angry and confused" at his treatment by Manchester United! I'll just copy the full quotes as they are quite intriguing: "Rooney believes he is at the peak of his career and has no intention of becoming a squad rotation player or by playing second fiddle to anyone at Old Trafford.

"He believes he has nothing left to prove after nine successful seasons - yet that is what is being suggested by reports in the media which have interpreted the club's statement as meaning he's currently on trial for the coming season.

"Since he's returned from the pre-season tour due to injury, Rooney has been in touch with the club and spoken to David Moyes on the phone - he is angry and confused at the way he's been treated."

Something tells me this one wont have a happy ending... Chelsea or Arsenal to dig out their chequebooks on this one, methinks.
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July 17th, 2013, 5:33 pm

Would love to see Fabregas come to Old Trafford, teaming up with Van Persie: Arsenal's Dynamic Duo.

My opinion on Cavani is pretty much the same as yours with exception of the wasting chances part. Defenders always hate playing against him. He's aggressive in a good way (if that's possible?), and his technical skills as well as effectivity have improved a lot over the years. Let's look at his 3 seasons while playing for Napoli, shall we? First season 26 goals in 35 matches, second season 23 goals in 35 matches and in his third season he managed to score 29 goals in 34 matches. Statistics never lie, Drew. Image

Fully agree about the €63m. That's way too much, but we've gotten used to such exorbitantly high transfer fees over the years....

Most expensive transfers
  • 1. Cristiano Ronaldo: Manchester United ~~> Real Madrid (€94m)
  • 2. Zinedine Zidane: Juventus ~~> Real Madrid (€73m )
  • 3. Kaka: AC Milan ~~> Real Madrid (€65m)
  • 4. Edinson Cavani: Napoli ~~> Paris Saint Germain (€64m)
  • 5. Radamel Falcao: Atletico Madrid ~~> Monaco (€60m)
  • 6. Luis Figo: Barcelona ~~> Real Madrid (€58.5m)
  • 7. Neymar: Santos ~~> Barcelona (€57m)
  • 8. Fernando Torres: Liverpool ~~> Chelsea (€56m)
  • 9. Hernan Crespo: Parma ~~> Lazio (€53.6m)
  • 10. Carlos Tevez: Manchester United ~~> Manchester City (€53m)
Kevin Strootman is officially moving to AS Roma for €17m. Curious to see what PSV are gonna do with all the incoming money this summer. Invest, or be smart and safe some, in these tough economical and financial times. Every normal person would start saving, but in Football everything's different, so me thinks they'll just invest it again, lol.

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July 19th, 2013, 11:18 am

I think I must have caught Cavani on a couple of bad days ;) There was one game in the Confederations Cup that he missed loads of chances, but as you say the stats don't lie and he easily scores more than enough goals! I had a look at his goals to shots ratio and apparently it's around 18%, whereas perhaps his closest similar player, Falcao is around 22% so not much difference at all. I kind of wish I had access to French football this coming season because I'd love to see how Cavani and Falcao compare over the season playing in the same league in similar quality teams.

Yep, it's certainly becoming the norm to see players go for high fees over the past 10 years or so. Looking at that list, I see only Torres who you could say hasn't been worth the money (I suppose Neymar has yet to prove himself in Spain).

Speaking of spending money, Manchester City have finally brought Alvaro Negredo to England and in the process become their 20th signing over £20m since they were taken over! When you consider the number of players signed for just under that figure, it's insane how much cash they have spent and yet they are still not classed as the strongest side!

Yeah football doesn't really subscribe to reality when it comes to finances does it lol ;)

Rooney update: It's all becoming quite laughable really. David Moyes has had a total brain-fart moment and declared that Rooney is required to stay in case an injury occurs to van Persie! Way to give Rooney confidence, David. Meanwhile, Mourinho has declared that Rooney is his only transfer target of the summer.

Finally, just because it's been making us Spurs fans chuckle over the past couple of days - the Daily Mirror newspaper had a big headline yesterday: "Bale to Man United for £60". Yep that's right, a full £20m less than we apparently rejected from Real Madrid. Today they have printed a follow up say that 'their source' has indicated "United would have more response from talking to a brick wall than trying to persuade chairman Daniel Levy to sell" :rofl:
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July 22nd, 2013, 2:38 pm

Not too many news....

In addition to City signing Negredo, Stevan Jovetic (Fiorentina) is also moving to the English capital of Football. And after signing Cavani for a ridiculous amount of money, PSG continue where they left off. Marquinhos has signed a contract in Paris and the Ligue 1 giants transfer €35m to AS Roma, resulting in the Brazilian becoming the most expensive teenager ever, "beating" Rooney who went from Everton to Man United. Oh, PSG also pay €15m for left back Digne from Lille. Monaco could feel threatened by all of this....

Have you read "I Am Zlatan", Ibrahimovic's biography? It's an interesting book containing stories from his childhood in Rosengard, Sweden, all the way to the disputes he had with Pep when he played for Barcelona. The reason I'm mentioning this specific book is cause it gives an insight look on how Football players, but more specifically agents, work. Zlatan's agent, Raiola, is currently one of the most influential. For example, Mkhitaryan is his latest cash cow, Raiola got ahold of him last April, just a little over 2 months before the Armenian went to Dortmund for an astonishing €25m. Anyway, my point is, with all these rumours and stories about Rooney and Bale, 90% of what we read is most likely.... how shall I put it nicely.... bullshit, leaked by the agent. All they want is to get the best possible salary and fee. Not sure if you're into reading books, but I definitely recommand that one.

Guus Hiddink resigns as Anzhi boss, which is remarkable as he had signed a new contract not too long ago. Hiddink is one of Holland's best and most respected managers of all time, but it's a proven fact Guus loves the big bucks, lol. He went to Anzhi, because he thought it would be a nice "challenge" to attack Moscow's biggest clubs (CSKA, Spartak, Lokomotiv) as well as Zenit in Saint-Petersburg. When he initially signed in Dagestan, he also orated about how he wanted to make the life of the people living there somewhat better. With the help of him, and the big Anzhi boss' money, a new modern hospital would be build, lmao. Never ever did Hiddink mention the fact Dagestan is dangerous as hell, even more so than Egypt and Iraq combined. Not mentioning the fact Mr Hiddink himself was residing at the most luxurious Russian hotel, located in Moscow. So, while he was talking about how great Dagestan is, he and his team were flying back and forth between Makhachkala and Moscow. Retire, Guus. Please, retire. You've got more money than Disney's Scrooge McDuck.

Barcelona coach Tito Vilanova also resigned this weekend. He has to undergo new further treatment for cancer.

Nacer Chadli has gone to Spurs.... congratulations! :D
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July 23rd, 2013, 4:31 pm

Having spent the entire day running down the battery on my phone whilst at work watching the Saldado to Spurs story playing out, I'm rather envious of Manchester City being able to simply slap down the asking price for two strikers and not have any dramas! I refuse to get my hopes up on Saldado (especially now as it's not looking very positive lol), but it's hard not to get excited by the prospect of signing him...

Negredo and Jovetic should be good signings for City, but one wonders how much game time they expect to get. Dzeko, Balotelli and to some extent, Tevez have all found out that Aguero is City's main man and the rest have to work around him. I would think Dzeko might well find himself sold but that still leaves two new big money signings battling it out for a spot on the subs bench ;)

I have to be honest, I had not even heard of Marquinhos until I saw PSG had brought him for €35m. I guess we know where Roma got the Strootman money from now! Haha, yeah it'll be interesting to see if Monaco jump into the transfer market again now :) Which team/squad would you prefer to have out of PSG and Monaco, Gert? I would have to go with PSG right now, especially as they will have the more settled side. Although I'm sure they will greatly miss Beckham ;)

I do indeed enjoy reading books and I am Zlatan sounds right up my alley. I just had a look on Amazon and it seems like English language version isn't being released until September, so I might add that to my birthday wish list for later in the month :) It's funny you mention about agents and books because I am currently reading 'I Am The Secret Footballer', which you may have heard of? If not, it's a current (supposedly) fairly high profile player who writes a column for the Guardian newspaper revealing stories and information about the life of a professional player and football in general. He dedicates a chapter to agents and has an agent answer questions in detail. He mentions about how agents with less scruples than the average person would think nothing of cold calling a player or club saying he can get a deal and then trying to lure the player away once he knows a deal can be done. I'd keep an eye out for it if you see a copy as I'm positive you would enjoy reading it. Plus, there's a particular story in the 'WAGs' chapter that is quite an eye opener, lol!

Lol, when I saw that Guus Hiddink had quit my immediate thought was "Hmm, I wonder who is offering him loads of money now!?" I suppose you can't blame him for cashing in on his reputation, especially in Russia where his good friendship with Roman Abromovich has helped raise his profile even further. But he must be getting on a bit now - maybe late 60's? So surely it's time to wind down, unless a big team are interested in him?

Back on the topic of books, another I read recently is called 'Football Dynamo' by Marc Bennetts. It's written by an English journalist who moves to Russia and decided to write a book on Russian football. It's a fascinating read and another that I'm sure would be of interest to you. I remember reading about how some of the teams in the Russian wilderness would play their home games in Moscow, because they had so few fans in the city and the weather made it nigh on impossible to train or play matches.

It's very sad for Vilanova and one must hope he is able to win his battle. Gerardo Martino as new had coach, which seems a choice somewhat out of left-field? The biggest link appears to be that of Messi, who I understand has a lot of respect for him.

Yep, Nacer Chadli is now a Spurs player :) From what I have seen and you told me about him, he looks to be an ideal fit for us. We just need to sort out this pesky striker situation now and I'll be satisfied ;)
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July 24th, 2013, 5:32 pm

I'd also pick PSG over Monaco. Yes, more settled, but also a larger amount of quality players, bigger stadium, capital of France, more fans and the number one candidate for the French title. Whether Monaco are actually able to compete with them is yet to be seen. Funny how the competition in France has gotten a completely different image. Not too long ago Ligue 1 was dominated by Olympique Lyon, which always grabbed the title two months before the season ended. They managed to do this for six or seven consecutive years! And nowadays Lyon need to be happy with 3rd place, best of the rest, which gives them access to the qualification stage of the Champions League.

I've heard some things about "I Am The Secret Footballer", sounds really interesting. I did a quick search, just a few weeks ago, to see if I could find a place to get a copy of this book, but no luck yet, so not sure if it's already been released in Holland. Definitely gonna buy it though! Any idea who this guy is? Premier League player? Playing for one of the top teams? Getting more and more excited to read it. "Football Dynamo" doesn't ring a bell, but I might as well put that book on the list, too.

Gerardo Martino.... I remember him as manager of Paraguay during the World Cup in 2010 and the Copa America in 2011, but was as surprised as you to hear he'll be coaching Barcelona next season. Even though he's not the first name I would have come up with, both trainer and club share their philosophy of attractive Football. :icon_wink:
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July 25th, 2013, 2:54 pm

Yeah I remember Lyon dominating for many years, which I assume was mainly down to their participation in the Champions League which gave them a huge financial and player attraction advantage over every other French club. The fact that it has taken two billionaire owners to come in and break up the dominance is quite telling of modern football, I feel. :money:

I picked up I Am The Secret Footballer from a bookshop that sells brand new books at reduced prices. I think it was only £3-4. Next time I go in there I'll see if they have any copies left and pick one up for you as a gift, if you like? I also got my copy of Football Dynamo from there last year for the princely sum of 50p, but sadly that was the only copy. It's quite a good shop for picking up the odd sports book bargain :)

There's a dedicated website - whoisthesecretfootballer.co.uk - that keeps checklists on possible candidates :) The current leading candidate is Dave Kitson, but others include Kevin Davies, Nicky Shorey and Danny Murphy although none of them totally match up to the clues 100%. Mind you, if I was in his shoes, I'd probably throw in the odd porky or two just to cover my own ass lol. :axchase:

The big transfer story brewing up this week is the somewhat surprising Luis Suarez to Arsenal. The gooners (sorry, I couldn't resist, lol) have made a rather questionable bid of £40m and one pound as this apparently meets a clause in his contract that says Liverpool have to inform him of the bid, although doesn't mean they have to accept it. Suarez, in keeping with his saintly behaviour thus far, has intimated he will put in a transfer request should Liverpool have the cheek to try and keep him. Liverpool (well Brendan Rodgers) is saying that he's not for sale and if he were, should command a fee closer to that of Cavani. It will be quite the eye-raiser should Arsenal continue to increase their bid and how it will all work out... Now that Higuain has now joined Napoli, it's starting to leave them looking quite desperate for a striker that matches their criteria.

I saw Spurs' first televised pre-season friendly yesterday against Sunderland in the Premier League Asia trophy. They played in an absolute downpour that had the pitch resembling a swamp. Kick off was delayed 30 minutes and then they had to play 40 minute halves lol. Thankfully the team we put out should not resemble the team that plays Crystal Palace on the first game of the season, because we were pretty awful, despite the pitch... Also to compound the misery, Vertonghen landed awkwardly and is out for 3-4 weeks with ankle ligament damage :( Still, I take great solace from the fact Sandro, Dembele, Bale, Paulinho, Chadli and Holtby all did not feature (Chadli wasn't registered in time for the tournament which is a shame as I really want to see him play).

I also caught a few glimpses of Bayern v Barcelona too. I see Bayern are in the mood to give other teams a chance this year, with a pre-season record thus far of 9 wins out of 9, conceded a massive 3 and scored just 61. Relegation form if they take that into the new season, lol.
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July 26th, 2013, 4:34 pm

Found the book, placed an order and I'm most likely receiving it somewhere next week. Thanks for the offer though, appreciate it! :D

Bayern Munich's form is unbelievable. I read they've played a few friendly matches in which Guardiola has been experimenting with Ribery in the Messi role, Robben left winger, and Muller on the right winger position. Seems to me he's almost trying to copy Barcelona, not sure if that's a good thing or not. Time will tell, but like you said, the statistics are "okay" for now. Furthermore, I doubt Lewandowski is going to Bayern this summer. Something tells me he will just move to Munich next summer when his contract expires. No transfer fee.... bigger salary?

Napoli is active on the market. No surprise with €63m, but Jose Reina....really?! Gee, I wonder who made that call, lol. Celtic lose another player; Gary Hooper has been offered a deal by Norwich City, but I can't seem to find how much they are paying for him. Hmmmm.

Tomorrow we will have our first big match here in Holland between Ajax and AZ Alkmaar: Champions vs Cup Winner. Excited to see where both clubs stand right now, although it doesn't say anything. In last year's Super Cup match PSV demolished Ajax and look how that turned out in the competition, lol. Bayern Munich vs Chelsea ~~ European Super Cup with Guardiola vs Mourinho ~~ is gonna be one hell of a match too! But why is it being played in Prague?!
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July 28th, 2013, 7:05 am

Oh cool, glad you managed to find yourself a copy - hope you enjoy it now after this build up lol :)

I suppose with Guardiola, he must be thinking 'how can I make this team even better' and so maybe he thinks he has to try something different? But as you say, it could be a dangerous game considering how Bayern outplayed Barcelona so comfortably last season and strolled to the league title with their own very effective style of play. I was just thinking to myself a few days ago that the Lewandowski stories had gone quiet (I was pondering potential strikers for Spurs - again lol). I'm surprised that no other big teams have gone in for him - Manchester United, City, Chelsea and even Real Madrid. Considering the number of big striker names that have moved so far this season you would think that Lewandowski would have been high up on the lists of all those clubs.

The Reina story is an interesting one: Liverpool have basically admitted it's a cost saving deal down to the fact they assumed he would be going to Barcelona to replace Valdes. When Valdes had the U-turn and decided to stay with Barca, Liverpool had agreed to sign Mignolet and this were stuck with having two first choice goalkeepers on the books. I also suspect that Liverpool were quite happy to let Reina go and just needed a good excuse to make it happen...

I think the Gary Hooper fee is £5.5m, or at least that was what QPR had agreed with Celtic. I guess in the current climate with clubs having so much TV money burning holes in their pockets, it's a reasonable enough fee for a player who has ambitions of making the England squad. Norwich could have a pretty good team this coming season, with van Wolfswinkel, Fer and now Hooper, plus the exciting Nathan Redmond also joining.

Would I be right in thinking that the Ajax v Alkmaar match would be the equivalent of what we now call 'the community shield' match? The previous seasons league and cup winners playing each other in what essentially boils down to a friendly match? It almost has a reputation of being bad luck to win it as quite often the team that has lost has gone on to win the league!

My mum is a Leicester City fan (her family are from there) so we were quite excited to see them play Monaco yesterday in a friendly on TV. Although we could only see the first 20-30 minutes as we had to go out somewhere, but Monaco looked pretty decent considering they are still a few weeks away from the start of the season. Falcao showed lots of good movement and I think he will tear apart the French league defences. I should see more (and hopefully not so much of Falcao destroying defences) when they play Spurs next Saturday as that is also being shown on TV.

The Bale rumour mill is heading into overdrive now with constant speculation that Madrid have finally turned Bale's head and he wants to join them... Of course the fact that they still owe us £12m on the Modric deal seems to be conveniently skirted over when the papers report stories of 'Madrid bid world record £86m for Bale'. All of the stories seem to be coming from Marca, which got caught out yesterday as printing a story linking quotes to Bale that were word for word exactly the same as in a story they published on Modric last season! Still, it's hard to stay confident when there is so much silence from Tottenham on this, so I hope very much for something positive to come out early this week that will put this whole issue to bed for this season.

I also hope that there will be good news on the Soldado front fairly soon as the stories coming out are that we have met the buy out clause of €30m (albeit in a structured deal) and there could be an announcement soon... :innocent:
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July 29th, 2013, 1:06 pm

TheBoy wrote:Would I be right in thinking that the Ajax v Alkmaar match would be the equivalent of what we now call 'the community shield' match? The previous seasons league and cup winners playing each other in what essentially boils down to a friendly match? It almost has a reputation of being bad luck to win it as quite often the team that has lost has gone on to win the league!
You hit the nail on the head! :icon_wink:

Ajax vs AZ Alkmaar was a match with two faces. Ajax were aggressive, putting a lot of pressure on Alkmaar's defense, while AZ decided to go for the counter strategy. There was only one real chance during the whole first half. A free kick by Ajax midfielder Eriksen was saved by the goalkeeper. In the second half AZ Alkmaar scored 1-0 AND 2-0, totally out of the blue. For a minute, I thought that second goal had punched Ajax knock out, but they fought back hard to eventually get their inevitable equalizer. Siem de Jong scored 3-2 in the extra time, which means Ajax won their first trophy of the season. Overall, an "okay" game, but I would rather have been able to see Dortmund vs Bayern Munich; 4-2.... for Dortmund!

The Belgian competition has officially kicked off last weekend. Anderlecht lost their first (home) match against Lokeren. Embarrassing start, lol.

Kondogbia, partly owned by the Doyen Sports Group, is still playing for Sevilla, but he's most likely to go to Real Madrid. His agent? Guess! Jorge Mendes. This investment company is collaborating with more and more clubs. Not every player owned by Doyen has given them permission to put his name on their official website, but those who did can be found here.

Quiet on the transfer market; Ajax left winger Derk Boerrigter seems to be on his way to Celtic.
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July 31st, 2013, 3:39 pm

I wish things were quiet over here in the transfer market! As you are no doubt aware by now, the Bale rumours are at dizzying heights and I'm now fully expecting him to join Madrid, such has my optimism dropped over the past couple of days :crying2: There is just too much smoke for there not to be at least an element of truth going on. It's almost unquestionably Bale's agent that is feeding the news outlets and encouraging Madrid to be as blatant as possible about wanting him. Zidane is still piping up about us 'not allowing poor Gareth to fulfil his dream and miss out on a now or never, once in a lifetime opportunity'; players such as Casillas and Sergio Ramos have said how they are looking forward to him coming and Marca are sounding even more like a kids fanzine than ever.

In the meantime perhaps the most important man in all of this, Bale himself, is keeping quiet... too quiet.

The rumours of the transfer fee/deal grows even more outlandish by the day. We're currently at Luka Modric + €85m lol. Other deals mooted include variations of Coentrao + Di Maria + cash ranging from €50m-80m, €90 + Coentrao, €100m, €125m and even €150m! There was also a mischievous story this morning suggesting we would be spending £50m on Luis Suarez with our new found wealth, haha.

Perhaps the only factor that still keeps me with some hope, is that it seems to be well accepted that Real Madrid are not currently flowing in spare €'s, having spent around €60+ on Isco and Illaramrendi and that they would not be able to afford the upfront cash sum that Daniel Levy would demand, especially as they apparently still owe £12m on the Modric transfer. Of course, we all know that when Real Madrid need a few extra pennies to spend, they usually find a small chunk of 'highly desirable' land for the government to buy from them at a very reasonable rate ;)

One other thing that will be very interesting to see what happens is with Bale's new high profile marketing deals: He is currently on the front cover of the upcoming FIFA 14 game, is the 'face of the Premier League' for the brand new BT Sport tv channel and is on a huge billboard ad residing in Times Square promoting Under Armour and HP. One would assume that these parties have all paid quite handsomely for Bale's services (and in the case of Hewlett-Packard, have also factored him into their shirt sponsorship deal with Spurs) and would be demanding a fair amount of compensation were he to drop them all so soon into the deals?

I don't mind admitting that I desperately hope that somehow Bale stays with Tottenham, even for just one more season, especially as I feel Madrid have really sullied their reputation with the borderline childish methods they have gone about their business.

Ultimately it just seems to have got to the point where no club, let alone one such as Spurs, can turn down what will surely end up being a world record sum for a player not totally tested on the biggest stage and is by no means certain to have such an incredible season as the one he has just had.

Then it remains to be seen just how our legendarily tight-fisted chairman will go about spending all that money...

We're still waiting on Saldado, but about an hour ago from me writing this, the latest was that his agent had settled his dispute with Valencia and that everything was now agreed bar the medical and an announcement should be made soon... I've learnt never to count my chickens when it comes to Spurs transfer signings, but it does look to be very, very close now!

In more certain transfer news, we have surprisingly sold Steven Caulker to Cardiff City for £8.5m this afternoon. There had been no rumours or anything on this potentially happening and it's even more puzzling when we currently have just one fit central defender to play the friendly against Monaco on Saturday! I know Michael Dawson is a warrior, but even he can't handle Falcao on his own lol. This may coincide with the news last night from Steaua Bucharest that they had agreed to sell 23 year old Vlad Chiriches for €6.9m, only for Gigi Becali, their currently imprisoned and by all acounts, slightly bonkers owner, to today cancel the deal. Maybe he suddenly realised we may soon have rather a lot of money looking at us ;)

Apologies for the very Spurs-central post today, but as I'm sure you can appreciate, Gareth Bale is dominating the news totally over here right now!

One final thought to leave you with that links to your comments about Jorge Medes and the Doyen group: Gareth Bale's agent is Jonathan Barnett of the Stellar Group. It's been suggested that Bale is now into the final year of his contract with them... And deeper still, the aforementioned Steven Caulker is managed by... yep, the Stellar Group! Would it be too much to suggest that this likeable bunch of agents are perhaps now not very welcome at White Hart Lane? ;) If Gylfi Siggurdson - the one remaining Stellar player at Spurs (besides Bale of course) - also finds himself hastily transferred, then you'd have to think that someone has been taken off Daniel Levy's Christmas card list, lol.
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July 31st, 2013, 10:31 pm

This is TRULY an amazing thread. I come here to get my footy news... thanks!! (no joke)
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August 1st, 2013, 8:49 am

Happy to keep you updated, Rokker :)

Latest news is that Spurs have indeed finally signed Roberto Soldado from Valencia. YES! :cheerleader: Fee is undisclosed but smart money suggests it's €12m upfront with three further payments of €6m over the next three years. So this is by far the highest fee paid by Tottenham for a player and sees us break our transfer record for the second time this summer.

His stats are very impressive - I particularly like his 24% chance conversion stat, which when stacked up against Defoe (10%) and Adebayor (11%) shows just how much we have needed a clinical finisher. The rest of his stats are mightily impressive too:
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I also like how he scores consistently throughout the season and should we be lucky enough to be awarded a penalty this season, he looks very proficient in that department too.

Now, we just need to lock Gareth Bale inside a cupboard for the next month and let him out on September 1... ;)
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August 2nd, 2013, 7:31 pm

Gareth Bale is big news all over Europe and I can't think of anyone else besides you to give the very latest on this upcoming deal. You read about it in the English papers, you hear about it in the English talkshows. And as you're a huge Spurs fan, you can also add drama and enthusiasm to the news, so feel free to write about Bale as much as you like.

Honestly, though, I have always said Bale was going to leave Spurs this summer. I know it's not what you wanna hear, but it's simply impossible to keep him at White Hart Lane. We've reached the point of no return, everyone is now playing games and trying to secure the best possible deal. His agent for Bale. Levy for Spurs. Zidane & Perez for Madrid. Luka Modric + €85m would be a historical amount of money and it got me wondering why Real Madrid doesn't just buy Lionel Messi. lol. He has a buy out clause of €150m in his contract.... or would that be too much for Madrid? Anyway, keep us updated! Soldado moving to London is awesome. First class forward, he will guarantee 20+ goals per season. Interesting sidenote; he's the next Spanish player leaving the Primera Division.....

What's the latest on Suarez? Last thing I heard is that he IS leaving Liverpool (between €50m - €60m), and that the Reds are gonna spend millions on Christian Eriksen. Bale's possible transfer to Madrid suggests Suarez will be going somewhere else. So, which club is interested in signing him, but more importantly, has the finances to do so? Exactly one month from now and the transfer market will be closed.

Btw, did you watch Swansea's match against Malmo in the Europa League last night? Since there is a strong Dutch influence, I'm keeping a close eye on them. They didn't broadcast the game here, so I was kinda wondering if you saw the full 90 mins, or highlights perhaps? Good result (4-0).

Dutch Eredivisie has kicked off: Ajax 3-0 Roda Kerkrade. I say it's time for another prediction, lol.

Image Image Image Image .... Ajax will reach the Quarter Finals of this year's Champions League .... :D :D :D :D
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August 4th, 2013, 9:05 am

Well another day and yet more Gareth Bale news to report!

First up, I would say that the press and media have been exceedingly over reporting the whole story. The sheer volume of slightly differing stories that have been pumped out over the past few weeks make it fairly obvious that the exact details are unknown. Marca and AS, the two Madrid based newspapers have easily been the culprits for many of the regurgitated stories that then appear in the British (and no doubt other European) press. What is abundantly clear, is that Madrid very much want Bale and that Bale would be more than happy to go. However - and I promise this is not my Spurs heart speaking - I very much believe that Bale is also more than happy to stay.

Last night gave the clearest indication of where the situation is at. You may have heard/read about the Andre Villas-Boas post match press conference after the Monaco game last night (more on the Monaco game later!). If not, I highly recommend viewing it here. Now to me, this would indicate that: we're pretty pissed off with Madrid and their blatant 'tapping up' in public; and that now means we're standing our ground meaning 'pay us an amount on our terms or shut up because we are not going to bend over and take it'.

Whilst this still changes nothing in the grand scheme of things, it does say to me we're laying down the gauntlet to see if Real Madrid genuinely have the money to spend. Remember, when they signed Ronaldo, they took out a bank loan to cover the up front fee - something Manchester United admitted as the reason they could not turn down the offer. So the question would be, can the Spanish banks afford to lend Madrid £/€100m in the current financial situation? And if not, can Madrid rustle up the cash by selling players such as Di Maria and Fabio Coentrao?

The current suggestion from people that I trust to have knowledge from inside the club, is that Madrid's latest offer is to pay in three yearly sums of £20m which as you can imagine, hasn't been met with much glee by Daniel Levy! But honestly, can you blame him? What good does £20m do for us in trying to replace Bale? We would need to expect the selling club to also accept payments in instalments and that simply causes more difficulty.

The other interesting side note to this has been the players Madrid have so far tried to include as make-weights - the aforementioned Di Maria and Coentrao. Madrid have apparently doubled up on their valuation of both players from prices quoted to us/other teams previously - Di Maria to £40m+ and Coentrao to £25m in an effort to adjust the remaining cash sum. This again would heavily suggest that Madrid do not have anywhere near the cash reserves to finance the world record bid.

Finally, perhaps the most important man in all of this that often gets overlooked is the Spurs chairman, Daniel Levy. His reputation goes before him as an incredible negotiator and difficult man to deal with. He has upset numerous clubs around Europe with his negotiations and I'd wager Madrid have never come up against such a man before, who wasn't either insane or an egomaniac lol. Levy will ALWAYS do what he believes is best for Tottenham Hotspur, no matter what the cost to anyone else. He stood firm against Roman Abromovic despite Modric refusing to play and in the face of very public pressure to sell from Chelsea (much like with Madrid). If we do sell, I have absolutely zero doubt that it will be a world record cash sum and it will be paid mostly upfront.

I doubt we will hear the end of things until the transfer window closes, but next weekend's game with Espanyol at White Hart Lane will maybe be an indication of how things stand, should they not have been sorted by then one way or another, what with Bale's 'injury' that he may or may not have.

Away from Bale, but not too far ;) is the news that Clint Dempsey has been sold to MLS side Seattle Sounders for $9m. This quite surprising for a number of reasons, not least that Clint would be prepared to play MLS football when he still was more than capable of playing Premier League football. Also factor in that we have recouped the full amount that we paid for him 12 months ago, which again must go down to a certain Mr Levy ;) By all accounts the Seattle Sounders get very healthy crowds (I heard 40,000 mentioned, which is incredible) so hopefully Clint can further promote 'soccer' in the US.

Finally, on the subject of Spurs and the Monaco game last night. You already know about the injury to Vertonghan (3 weeks out) and possibly also Kaboul's long term injury that he has now suffered another setback, along with the curious sale of Steven Caulker to Cardiff. Well yesterday our one remaining central defender, Michael Dawson has sustained an injury in training that could see him out for quite a while. This meant we went into the battle against Falcao, James Rodriguez, Moutinho, etc with a central defence of Jake Livermore and Zeke Fryers :noway! As you can imagine, it was carnage! Along with the makeshift defence, Sandro, Paulinho, Bale, Holtby and Soldado all didn't even make the trip (we only took 19 players including three goalkeepers!) meaning only Nacer Chadli was the new face in a very 'B Team' feel. As it was, the players looked about as interested as schoolkids in a history lesson.

Monaco on the other hand looked very good, again Falcao in particular. Livermore and Fryers will not be the sternest of tests, but the way he pulled them out of position will cause established defenders plenty of problems. Moutinho too was a joy to watch pulling the strings.

Suarez still could be a slow burner I think. However Brendan Rogers, in keeping with his best David Brent impression has yesterday stated that if Bale is worth £100m then so should Luis Suarez... Fair enough that the quality of both players is similar, but when you consider one has been banned for a total of 20 games in two years whilst in England, 6 of which still to be served this season and you kind of have to re-evaluate the players value, wouldn't you say? There have been rumours that Suarez may take legal action if Liverpool didn't accept a bid for him, but surely even he wouldn't be that stupid? My instinct is that he won't go to Arsenal, purely because I can't see them making a bid that is too good to refuse (even though the £40m bid would in my eyes be good enough) and I don't think Liverpool will accept anything less. Real Madrid could still be the alternative should they not get Bale, but I'd say there is a good chance he will still be at Anfield for this season.

I'll be honest and say I didn't see any of the Swansea v Malmo game because I didn't realise it was a Europa League match on tv! I thought it was just another pre-season friendly lol. By all accounts though they looked pretty impressive with Bony in particular making an instant impact. Laudrup has done well to get his new signings gelling together and they look good to go into the new season settled and able to continue building on what they had last season. I believe that the second leg is also on tv next week, so I will try to remember it and let you know more thoughts :)

I hope you are right with your prediction for Ajax - and maybe even better. I think as a football fan, there is something wrong if you can't admire Ajax and the way they do things from the coaching, to the players they bring though and sell on for big profit whilst still playing 'proper' football. Here's a question for you Gert-Jan: if Ajax were a Premier League team over say the past 10 years, where do you think they would be with the added finances available to them whilst being up against comparatively stronger teams?
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