CAM ISSUES - Feedback, Voting, Mobile!

[rokkerr]

I STRESS a couple of things...

1. The old system was breaking and is breaking
2. The ONE and ONLY important thing is the model who will have better video on all formats with MUCH better archives.
3. Private Chats are just not important right now - we need to make sure that the system is stable.
4. Member cams WILL be made bigger once we get ALL the models to undertand the new system and make sure there are no true flaws... like member cams being disconnected when a model leaves.

You guys want bells and whistles... that comes with some work, time and money. We are launching so that last week's fiascos with Sara Jay and other models are behind us...

I am not sure about the signing out thing. I usually always just closed my browser but I will ask.

[stickyvicky]

The most important thing about the new system is that you can watch shows on your phone or ipad. AND the archives will be mobile friendly too! As soon as we switch over, the archives will be mp4 not flv, the models are really happy about this, because in the past they had to convert every archive before they could use it on their sites, otherwise mobile users couldn't see it. The flv's don't convert well the audio gets out of sync with the video. This is going to be so much better.

[WalterB]

I STRESS a couple of things...

1. The old system was breaking and is breaking
2. The ONE and ONLY important thing is the model who will have better video on all formats with MUCH better archives.
3. Private Chats are just not important right now - we need to make sure that the system is stable.
4. Member cams WILL be made bigger once we get ALL the models to undertand the new system and make sure there are no true flaws... like member cams being disconnected when a model leaves.

You guys want bells and whistles... that comes with some work, time and money. We are launching so that last week's fiascos with Sara Jay and other models are behind us...

I am not sure about the signing out thing. I usually always just closed my browser but I will ask.

OldFart agrees, Private chats not necessary. The shows are about the model. To me, the cam room isn't a gathering place for members to carry on conversations during a show (altho I don't really care. None of my business if members are chatting, and nothing wrong with that. I just feel that your attention should be focused on the model. She is kind enough to come here and do this for free, seems to me like she should get our attention.) To me, the whisper is primarily for a moderator to give occasional direction to a member, or to ask a question of a model. But it was being used by some members to hassle female members. To me, the focus should be on the model, not on chatting with other members. People can meet there any time to chat with each other. You can even make your own private room (old system) where no one else can see what you're doing/saying.

Everyone all ready knows I don't like the pictures function, altho even I have used it on occasion. But, were it to go away, I certainly wouldn't miss it.

I don't find a "sign-out" function in the old system, either. When I leave, I just close the window.

I'm not sure, but the members cams don't appear to be undockable like the old system. I typically don't watch them anyway (well, the female members I do, lol.) Maybe they will be in a later release.

[stickyvicky]

Yes making the members cams resizable and movable is on the list for version 2.1

[stickyvicky]

I keep on thinking about this... I thought maybe we could add back the whispers, where members could whisper to other members but not to the models (you can leave the whisper on permanently, so it's the equivalent of having a private chatroom), but this defeats the purpose. The reason we took it away was that members drove the models and other female members crazy with whispers. Likewise for chat requests. Even if we agreed to pay a huge chunk of change to add back private rooms, models like FreeSpirit and BadKitty will be bombarded with private chat requests. We don't want our female members being harassed. That was why we took it away, so it doesn't make sense to put it back. It's a group room for group chats, so leave it like that.

[stickyvicky]

We got the mobile working again, I think all is good, fingers crossed. I'll be testing tonight in the room with Kelley Cabbana, if anyone is around, please come join us at 8 pm est! Thanks! The more the better to simulate a real life situation.

[WalterB]

Ok by me to leave the whisper function as is (none for members.)

[DrDave47]

Quick question, if the models and the admins have whisper does that mean that a model, or admin can whisper to a member, but not the other way around?

DrDave

[Fr33Sprt]

I keep on thinking about this... I thought maybe we could add back the whispers, where members could whisper to other members but not to the models (you can leave the whisper on permanently, so it's the equivalent of having a private chatroom), but this defeats the purpose. The reason we took it away was that members drove the models and other female members crazy with whispers. Likewise for chat requests. Even if we agreed to pay a huge chunk of change to add back private rooms, models like FreeSpirit and BadKitty will be bombarded with private chat requests. We don't want our female members being harassed. That was why we took it away, so it doesn't make sense to put it back. It's a group room for group chats, so leave it like that.

Ive only been asked for a private once I just rejected it this happened last year I think, after that I changed the "Private Chat" setting on my end. I whisper to others members but thats it. If you get rid of the whispers completely have no problem Im thankful for the new changes coming up in the future.

[Kirstie]

As for me, Vicky, I usually ignore the guys that ask me. One night, and I think it was during your show, I got so frustrated and I literally had to tell Walt what was going on. It happens. You get the perv that takes things too far and won't stop. And I always ignore private chats. But I do what Free does. I just change it so that I can't receive PM's. I wouldn't want to ruin the whole whisper thing because I'm a baby and don't want to deal with some random fart messaging me, but probably just keeping whispers model to admin would he best, but at some point, add the private messaging feature on! No one PMs me though (people that I wouldn't mine having convos with, anyway) so its not a big issue for me. Thank you for all that you and Rokkerr do here for the ladies and all of us! Y'all are awesome. I've been here only over two months now. I'm a newb. But I love what I've seen. I may not be on as much as I like cause work kicks my ass :( but I appreciate it all!

[Gert-Jan]

I cleared cache, rebooted the laptop, tried different browsers, all with the same result.

Still no banner in the old and new cam room....

No calendar on the right in the new room....

And since yesterday I'm not able anymore to log in as a mod in the new room: "The connection to the server has failed".

[DrDave47]

I cleared cache, rebooted the laptop, tried different browsers, all with the same result.

No banner in the old and new cam room....

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No calendar on the right in the new room....

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And since yesterday I'm not able anymore to log in as a mod in the new room: "The connection to the server has failed".

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That's what i was getting here also Vicky, and more than once got the last message, about not finding the server, thought that maybe you and webAir were having it out again, and they had blocked the server access because it was happening almost every time, it took nearly a half hour before all of a sudden things went through, almost like someone threw a switch.. Naw that would never happen, would it? lol...

DrDave

[DrDave47]

Vicky
Something just came to mind, as was discovered in testing only one model at a time may be on, but what happens if a model signs on early as a model, and watch's the end of the show running, does this kick the running model off or is it only if the camera of the model is on? Yesterday when I came in accidently as a 'model' and Lord knows I certainly don't fit that description....lol, did it block the active model? I can see a problem rearing it's ungly head here, what about the model that ends her show and turns off her camera, but doesn't sign out right away, we've got that happening a lot, does that mean she's blocking the next lady from doing her show ? What about when when you show up in a room to show it off to a model, who's camera does the room take, and does it block the other person if they come in with model privilages?
We've seen that multiple adminds may be in the new rooom at one time, without apparent problems, but what about multiple models, if only one has a camera on, is that the deciding factor, or is just their name enough to block another model from entering the room with their model credentials?

DrDave47

[WalterB]

I don't see a way to turn your cam on or off, except when you log on. So, if true, when a model is done, she will have to close her window, which will close everything. As far as a model coming on a tad early, not sure what the answer is there. But we may need to ensure that the current model logs off on time when someone is coming on after her. A comment may be necessary, "Jolene, MarySue is on next and she can't log in until you close your window."

"What about when when you show up in a room to show it off to a model, who's camera does the room take, and does it block the other person if they come in with model priviledges?" Not sure what you mean here. Who would be 'coming in to show it off' besides a member? There typically should be only one model at a time. If, by "...show up in a room to show it off to a model,..." you mean a member, members all will have their cams on as members, as normal.

Why don't you and I meet there sometime today and test that. One can log in as a model, then the other can. I was just able to log in as a model in two windows and my cam was on in both windows. But not sure if that will work the same when two different people are coming in from two different computers.

[stickyvicky]

When the 5:00 model comes in she will see the video of the 4:00 model who is finishing up her show. The 5:00 model is asked to test her vid and choose low-med-large stream. When she clicks "go live" her video is basically behind the 4:00 model is currently streaming. No one sees it. As soon as the 4:00 model closes her video the 5:00 model video pops up. The 5:00 model gets a notice saying "you are now the current model" so she knows exactly when her show is starting. It starts the archive from that moment as well.

If a model wants to hang out in the room afterwards, she closes her browser then clicks the moderator link in the blog window that is still open and just comes back in as a moderator. It takes 2 seconds. She won't miss anything. She is just changing status from model to moderator so the next model can have the video.

I'm going to make two separate logins on the blog for models and moderators to avoid any confusion. After last night, I fear moderators will forget to put an x in the box for "login as moderator" meaning they are models and will be blocking the real models video.

[WalterB]

Sounds cool. I love smart women, lol.

[DrDave47]

As an example, Monica may end her show, and turn off her camera, but not log out as a model for an hour or more, happens occasionally, as it has with a lot of other models, so does that mean when that happens the upcoming model is blocked from signing on? That's what the question was, or if Vicky comes in as a model during some one elses show to check the room, or Angel signs in a couple of minutes early, camera off to catch the end of Dawns show, is she blocked from signing in as a model if dawn is still on?

DrDave

[WalterB]

DrDave, read Vicky's answer again. She explained it.

As I mentioned above, when the model is done, she will close her cam window.

"As soon as the 4:00 model closes her video the 5:00 model video pops up. The 5:00 model gets a notice saying "you are now the current model" so she knows exactly when her show is starting." The only way for the 4:00 model to get out is to close the window. Then the 5:00 model is there.

"If a model wants to hang out in the room afterwards, she closes her browser (Walt - her cam window, not her browser) then clicks the moderator link in the blog window that is still open and just comes back in as a moderator. It takes 2 seconds."

[EmilyRain]

DrDave, read Vicky's answer again. She explained it.

As I mentioned above, when the model is done, she will close her cam window.

"As soon as the 4:00 model closes her video the 5:00 model video pops up. The 5:00 model gets a notice saying "you are now the current model" so she knows exactly when her show is starting." The only way for the 4:00 model to get out is to close the window. Then the 5:00 model is there.

"If a model wants to hang out in the room afterwards, she closes her browser (Walt - her cam window, not her browser) then clicks the moderator link in the blog window that is still open and just comes back in as a moderator. It takes 2 seconds."

Have I been doing right? I just close my window out when I leave.

[stickyvicky]

We are discussing the new system, you are not using the new system yet. Nothing has changed for the old system.

Dr.Dave there is no way for a model to stop her video except to close her browser window. It has to be done this way, there are more things in play here than there was in the old system. Because we now have voting being tabulated in the background. So there has to be an official "switchover" of models. If we allow more than one model to be active at once and people are voting then who gets the votes? So there has to be an official hard line drawn between the shows, that is why we make the 4:00 model close her browser and come back as a moderator if she wants to hang out and chat in the 5:00 show. From the moment the new model gets the popup box on her end that says "you are now the official live model" the votes are going to her. This is the only way to make it work programming wise.

I plan on giving away some money each month. Not a huge amount, But a cash prize to the #1 popular cam model each month, it should make it more interesting and encourage the ladies not to miss their shows.