Women watching porn

[LizLemon85]

Hello female fans! And everyone else who wants to reply!
I've always been one of very few female fans (sometimes the only one) on any platform I've subscribed to in the past, even on girlfriendsfilms or sweetheartvideo. What do you think, what are the reasons? Do women watch less porn? Or is it because they don't want to pay for it or don't like to comment?
My experience is that women who watch porn are frowned upon by other women. I recently talked about onlyfans to two (female) friends and they were clearly very uncomfortable about that topic. I mean, I wouldn't want to talk about details (what performers or sites I like), but I know, even if I told them simply about the fact that I really like to watch porn, they would hate it.
I recently started onlinedating and I know that would be a huge dealbreaker for many women.
So, what are your thoughts and experiences on that topic?

[lance_s]

Hello female fans! And everyone else who wants to reply!
I've always been one of very few female fans (sometimes the only one) on any platform I've subscribed to in the past, even on girlfriendsfilms or sweetheartvideo. What do you think, what are the reasons? Do women watch less porn? Or is it because they don't want to pay for it or don't like to comment?
My experience is that women who watch porn are frowned upon by other women. I recently talked about onlyfans to two (female) friends and they were clearly very uncomfortable about that topic. I mean, I wouldn't want to talk about details (what performers or sites I like), but I know, even if I told them simply about the fact that I really like to watch porn, they would hate it.
I recently started onlinedating and I know that would be a huge dealbreaker for many women.
So, what are your thoughts and experiences on that topic?

I had a discussion on this topic once with a lady I was seeing. Her response was that women who say they are not excited by watching porn are fibbing or being hypocritical.

[WalterB]

I don't know about women, Liz. I've never been around anyone that I could really discuss it with. I guess that says a lot about the women I date, huh? lol. You can't even mention it until you are 5 or 6 dates into a relationship. Let's face it. The last time I said, "Dang, you're gorgeous. Wanna go to my place and get fucked really good?" it did not end well. I still say that's why that lower right molar is missing

My opinion is that "middle-of-the-road" women don't even want to discuss it. If I have mentioned porn in the past, the conversation goes no where and the relationship gets cooler. So, it appears they don't mind doing it, but heaven forbid we should discuss it or even mention it outside Joe's Biker Bar.

Of course, yes, there are plenty of women out there who will not only discuss it, but will even try some of the things discussed. They will realize that porn is a wonderful way to learn more about sex, how much fun it is, and how to get more fun out of it (I love you, Pornstars, lol.)

You can't force anyone to like it more, you can only feel sorry for them, lol

[lance_s]

I don't know about women, Liz. I've never been around anyone that I could really discuss it with. I guess that says a lot about the women I date, huh? lol. You can't even mention it until you are 5 or 6 dates into a relationship. ......

I forgot about the woman who took me back to her place on our first date and the first thing she did was tune the TV to a porn channel. Mind, we never actually DISCUSSED porn, so I'm not sure if that counts.

[stickyvicky]

It's the whole slut shaming thing.. goes back 1000's of years... we are only supposed to do it for our husbands... not ENJOY IT! I have one girlfriend (not in porn) that I suggested watching porn too, and she laughed and said "rock on" but most people I know I would never dream of mentioning it. It would shock them, and I would be disrespected. I guess it depends on how close you are to the person? If they are a really good friend they must know what kind of person you are? Age is a huge factor too, the younger girls its much more ok...

[WalterB]

Very true, Vicky. I posted somewhere (my Travelogue?) about the wall painting and frescoes found in Pompeii, which was destroyed in 79 A.D. All kinds of sexual porn - men and women fucking and generally having fun. But, again, I don't think it was on the outside walls, but inside of homes and other places.

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Somehow, they even got a picture of me in there.

[LizLemon85]

It's the whole slut shaming thing.. goes back 1000's of years... we are only supposed to do it for our husbands... not ENJOY IT! I have one girlfriend (not in porn) that I suggested watching porn too, and she laughed and said "rock on" but most people I know I would never dream of mentioning it. It would shock them, and I would be disrespected. I guess it depends on how close you are to the person? If they are a really good friend they must know what kind of person you are? Age is a huge factor too, the younger girls its much more ok...

My problem right now is that most women on dating sites (at least the ones I've subscribed to) consider themselves "feminists", which is a good thing, I'm a feminist too, but when you read their profiles, it's clear that they are "old-school-feminists", which excludes everyone who thinks differently(i. e. "sex work is bad" "porn is always degrading"). I think everyone should be able to pursue whatever he or she wants (if everyone consents and no one is harmed) without the judgement of others.

[stickyvicky]

Well I guess it's a quick and easy way for you to weed out the people you would not be interested in anyway! Better to know now what kind of person they are! The worse is when they are on good behavior and agree with everything just to please you then later you find out they were faking it all along...

[Andrew35]

I do know even girls who produce content have mixed feelings on it too for various reasons

[Nicosig97]

I think more depends from the mentality and the environment in which we grew up, it is all a cultural question. Historically the life of the people in the past was very influenced by religion and for its the porn, everything about the sex and every shape of transgression, it is seen as evil. But if this argoments was tolerate for the men, it is not the same for women, otherwise a woman as talked of this was seen badly from the society, like a prostitute, always because her role was submit the husband and sotisfy his sexually, and didn't for her pleasure. Now this mentality is still present a bit, because this happened until 40/50 years ago, so i don't think as the most of women don't watch porn, also don't feeling safe to talk it, for fear of being misjudged. Certainly the way like is seen the women in the society, compared 40/50 years ago, is better, but still not enough, there is still much to do.

[WalterB]

Very true, Nico. In all aspects of society, we are gaining ground and getting better. But it is a very slow process. Pretty much all of humanity's ills are caused by people who are Power Tripping. They feed off of control and power over others. If you stop and think about all of the crap going on today, it is all caused by someone trying to exercise control over others.

[Nicosig97]

Exactly Walt

[Hornylady9]

I like what everyone has said here! In my case, I talk porn on here or to my transgender daughter. Growing up in the south knowing I had feeling about women and men was hard cause I didn't have anyone to talk to. Now I have the VNA ladies to talk to and it has created a lot of ease for me personally. I moved back to my hometown in 1992 cause my mom had to have a major back operation. I now have a few friends that know I watch porn and have been on vacation with Julia Ann. They are open minded about it but we really don't talk about porn. The love between us is still the same. The majority of people I know here I know I can't talk about watching porn or say I am bisexual. That's why we hope 1 day to move away from here. It is a little stressful when you can not be yourself. Just like there are guys who I went to high school with who know I am single now who try to make moves on me! haha! I was not interested then and I am not interested now!!! I am just trying to enjoy life and have some fun!!

Zany

[ks56niner]

I really wish I had something wise to say. But I can easily see that most women you are meeting on dating sites are old school feminist. I really hope that we can all get to the point of seeing everyone as beautiful and equal and celebrating that simple fact...through porn ;-)

[LizLemon85]

I like what everyone has said here! In my case, I talk porn on here or to my transgender daughter. Growing up in the south knowing I had feeling about women and men was hard cause I didn't have anyone to talk to. Now I have the VNA ladies to talk to and it has created a lot of ease for me personally. I moved back to my hometown in 1992 cause my mom had to have a major back operation. I now have a few friends that know I watch porn and have been on vacation with Julia Ann. They are open minded about it but we really don't talk about porn. The love between us is still the same. The majority of people I know here I know I can't talk about watching porn or say I am bisexual. That's why we hope 1 day to move away from here. It is a little stressful when you can not be yourself. Just like there are guys who I went to high school with who know I am single now who try to make moves on me! haha! I was not interested then and I am not interested now!!! I am just trying to enjoy life and have some fun!!

Zany

Great to hear that you found a sort of safe place here, Zany! I hope everything works out well for you and your family, especially with the corona situation which you mentioned in another thread!
I can relate to the fact that being here created ease for you.
I came out just before graduation when I had my first girlfriend. My friends stood by me, but mostly, it was hell. I was threatened, insulted, and worst for me, I was the center of attention everywhere I went. After the relationship ended, I decided to never have a relationship again.
Hated myself for being a lesbian. About one and a half years ago, I looked into porn for the first time.
It was so freeing, I saw women who really enjoyed sex, especially one performers' scenes were just ...
Totally different from what I was taught (being raised feminist (porn is degrading, women are victims blabla...)).
People should realize that people in porn are as diverse as the people who watch it.
It's not all fun and enjoyment, but not all bad.
Some people are a-holes, some are amazing. I don't want to exaggerate its meaning, at the end of the day it's "just porn", so it can be just fun entertainment, but it can also make a difference for some.

[WalterB]

[stickyvicky]

I was thinking about you guys Liz and Zany today when I uploaded the girl girl screencaps from my shoot with Katy! Let me know what you think of them?

[CaribbeanZack]

When I was about 14 years old I was in a video rental store and I overheard the two ladies who were working there " I watched this porn last night they were in a position called the helicopter, if you hear how that girl was moaning". Not to long after that there was an article in my local news paper about the number of women that watched porn, it read that out of every 8 women 3 watched porn, that was the statistic that came out of video rental stores here. And I can testify to that because lets take 16 women I know, I can count 2 chicks that I brought home asked if I have porn and if we can watch it, One other girl I caught watching porn, and two others had porn pics on their phones.
And it is true, if those women I just mentioned were known to watch porn they would be frowned upon by both men and women in the circles I know ( who are societies sheep btw) because everyone that has working gentiles likes sex and is curious about it. Society has an "invisible noose" on most people. Let's face it everyone wants to be accepted,respected and loved and no one willingly chooses to be a pariah, so many will hide the things they like and love that society deems a no no, and it is all hypocrisy
Let me give a real life example of this hypocrisy. I have two male friends that I am very close to, I told them that I started watching xxx camshows immediately they exclaimed they would never take part in those and started talking about how "dirty" it is and "what kind of people" do it and watch it. When I told them who I was watching and chatting to ...watch how they changed their tune...They both said "Dude!!! you know them???? If they come here to Barbados can you introduce us?" One of those friends said a model I mentioned is his "go to" for porn ...and how he wants to fuck her (trust me I lit a fire under their asses, but that's another story) So you see? They would watch those same people and jerk off to them "in their time of need" but in the face of society they would choose to ridicule , but behind closed doors ...
And that is the type of grip society has on people , I am a male and I was ridiculed so imagine a female now.
That is why women have to hide the fact that they watch porn. Women get it worse than guys and it is all hypocrisy. Whether society bases the reasons to ridicule off of religious or cultural beliefs, everyone has sexual urges and fantasies (fetishes) that they want satisfied and it is satisfied generally by pornography, but this is where that "invisible noose" that society has on most people comes to play and the majority of people will play that they despise porn and anyone who watches it and sadly women get it the worse.

[LizLemon85]

Of course, there's still plenty of room for improvement and it sucks that women (and men) can't talk freely about watching porn, but I think even if it wouldn't be frowned upon, I would still use a pseudonym on porn platforms (Yes, Liz Lemon isn't my birth name, I know, mind blowing ). And I think that's true for a lot of people, anonymity can give them the opportunity to try out different things without pressure and find out what they like.
Maybe they had fantasies about Bdsm and watched some scenes (that were surprisingly different from 50 shades of Grey) and found out that they don't like it. Without porn they would've spent a fortune on hiring a blacksmith to build them a dungeon, only to realize they're not into it
So I think people should be able to talk freely about what they like and shouldn't be shamed, but when they don't want to, that's okay too. Doesn't mean they're against it, maybe they're just private?! There's never an excuse for hate and bullying though. That's the Golden Rule, don't be an a-hole...don't judge people, as long as everyone's consenting and no one is hurt, mind your own business.

[Hornylady9]

I totally agree Liz! I wish I could talk with people more about porn and if u don't like to talk about it that okay too. But do not look at me like I have done the worse thing I could every do. Cause there are some pretty bad things I could be doing! haha

Zany