VNA site organization

[hrnyslr22]

Hey Ms VIcky - you and I poked at eachother way back in the days of MySpace :) Love what ya do, Julia Ann is one of my favorites - no offense - lived in SD back in the 90s and her & Janine drove me crazy :) so I signed up. Unfortunately, the layout needs improvement. I got away from the whole free porn deal and happened upon Adult Time & love their layout. Anything in the works to improve VNAs layout?

[stickyvicky]

What do you feel is lacking? What would make it better? Welcome to the forum by the way! I hope you come to my Cam show I'll be live in an hour.

[stickyvicky]

Most websites nowadays are nothing but a database of content with very little design or graphics... They are very "dumbed down" especially the fan sites like Onlyfans and Loyalfans.

Here at the VNA each website is designed for the girl to be her own star. Instead of making everything black with orange text and branding it all "VNA" Angelina's has a cuban flair with an old car and cigars and palm trees, Deauxma's features Texas landscapes and Shanda designed her own with crazy bright colors and spiral flowery thingies.... Each model has specifically chosen every photo on the site herself, so it's very personal. The navigation is still consistent between the sites though, so once you know one, you know them all.

The only thing that makes the VNA a little overwhelming, I think, is the number of sites you get, and the amount of extra features, like the cam system, the archives system and the forum.

I'm not sure what you would want me to change? We have worked extremely hard on it.

[WalterB]

I don't know, I'm quite happy with it all. I look over the other sites and I know that each control link will be familiar, while all of the content will be different, complete and exciting.

[StevieP]

I think the layout is super. Easy to navigate, it's not like you can get lost... and new content is right there which is what I make a beeline for anyways!

[stickyvicky]

Thank you Stevie and Walt! Still waiting to hear from hrnyslr22! lol... I just looked at adulttime.com and I can't even see anything? Without joining at least for the trial, I see no pics, no samples, no tour video nothing. So I have no idea what I would get over there? It just says adult movies. So it's not really for any specific performer, it's just a generic porn website where you can stream lots of videos? It's not personal at all. If that's what you want then it's great. Here we want it to be personal.

The slogan of the VNA is "Where fans become friends".

[greggl]

I think the layout works very well. The only suggestion I can think of is something that I seem to remember from a while back. If I remember right (and it is a possibility that I dont lol) at one time the bonus sites page would put the sites in order of newest updates. When one of the ladies updated her site it would move to the top of the page and sites that hadnt been updated would move lower on the page. That way you could tell who had an update without clicking on each site.

[StevieP]

The slogan of the VNA is "Where fans become friends".

And that is genuinely how it feels!

[ErikB]

Thank you Stevie and Walt! Still waiting to hear from hrnyslr22! lol... I just looked at adulttime.com and I can't even see anything? Without joining at least for the trial, I see no pics, no samples, no tour video nothing. So I have no idea what I would get over there? It just says adult movies. So it's not really for any specific performer, it's just a generic porn website where you can stream lots of videos? It's not personal at all. If that's what you want then it's great. Here we want it to be personal.

The slogan of the VNA is "Where fans become friends".

If you scroll to the bottom past all the ads, there are a couple of columns of text links. The upper left one says "Browse Channels". Clicking that brings you to another page full of ads. It looks like there is a tile for every channel they carry on their site. At the bottom right of each tile there is what looks like a play button and a number. My guess would have been that the number indicates the number of videos in the category. However, there appears to be one channel for the "Where The Boys Aren't" series of videos by Vivid. It looks like this Adult Time site has affiliated with some other producers. The thing is, a quick search indicates that there are at least 12 volumes in the "Where The Boys Aren't" series, but the number on the Adult Time tile is only 5. The tile has Vivid branding on it and the word "Series" near the play button and 5-count. There is another tile with the name Vivid and similar Vivid branding on it. Instead of "Series" the word says "Network" and the count is over 7000. Maybe there is a legal problem with some of the Where The Boys Aren't videos and they can't re-release them? I think I may have seen one or two of them back when I had local adult shops I could go to.

Clicking on any of the tiles takes you to their Join page, and they do that slimey trick where the page forwards to a copy of itself. That way, just hitting the back button once makes it look like you can't leave the Join page. I hate that. Also, the category tiles I mentioned above do a strange visual "wave" from the center of the tile to the edges whenever your pointer enters the tile. I am not a fan, although I suppose it is there to help the user find their pointer. The thing is, if their page was more organized and didn't look like an overwhelming glut of color pictures, finding the pointer would not be necessary.

So, it looks like they have various locally-grown series, as well as partnerships with other established players. They also look like a somewhat vanilla site with a little wider audience, as in addition to girl/girl and boy/girl they have gay, bi, trans, and animated (both cartoon and computer-generated).

Given that they hit you with the paywall so quickly, I am unlikely to give this site a try.

The slogan of the VNA is "Where fans become friends".

And that is genuinely how it feels!

Agreed!

[UncleDave]

I believe in the old adage "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"
Until there is a glaring issue I think the site works just fine. I'm new to the site but except for the fact that sometimes I'm a little slow or don't read everything I should and had initial issues of my own doing (thanks Vicky for helping me out) I feel the site is easy to navigate and quite functional.

My only issue is, I think I'm going to run out of lotion and tissue quickly.

[WalterB]

hrnyslr22 hasn't been back since Feb 5th, the day he pasted the above.

[stickyvicky]

Well that's just great! Post one negative comment and leave! Come back here you shit disturber! Lol.... spanking in order!

[WalterB]

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned, LOL.

[UncleDave]

Well that's just great! Post one negative comment and leave! Come back here you shit disturber! Lol.... spanking in order!

Spanking? What shit can I disturb?

[ErikB]

hrnyslr22 hasn't been back since Feb 5th, the day he pasted the above.

Well that's just great! Post one negative comment and leave! Come back here you shit disturber! Lol.... spanking in order!

Well, that WAS a Saturday. It hasn't been a week yet. Maybe hrnyslr22's situation is such that only weekends are for fun. Although, Vicky got back within an hour and a half, so I would have expected some sort of response either that Saturday or Sunday (unless Sundays are maybe for family?)

I would wait a little bit yet.

This reminds me a little of my own experiences. I was once the web coder for the local gun club, MANY years ago. The existing site had an all-black background and large, bright, mixed-color fonts for the foreground text. It was done by a previous volunteer who had moved and was no longer a member. I went for a clean, organized look and took pictures of a lot of historical photos and awards they had in the clubhouse. The Newport Rifle Club is the oldest continuously-running club in the United States.

Then one day I get an email from someone telling me the site looked old-fashioned and stupid and I should hire them (if I remember correctly) to make a better one. I think that was the only thing I got from them.

Then a few years later I got some similar comments, and the person provided what they thought would be a better alternative. It was just a boilerplate Wordpress website and they didn't even go through the trouble of putting the current calendar information into their Google calendar. For that, I was supposed to just sign over the domain and provide them with the password.

The third time, someone who was actually pretty active in the club wanted to take a crack at being the web administrator as well. This time, the club managers went for it. The youngster converted everything over to Wordpress (which I dislike). Also, all the text was light grey, and the website background was white. I sent him an email regarding people with aging eyes (which now included my own) who might not have such an easy time with low-contrast websites. It was ignored. His design for the website included a heavy dose of blogging about his own activities at the club (but not in a way that other members could also participate in the blogging that I could see). I checked the website before posting this, and it looks much better. I didn't see a reference to the webmaster at all, and the layout and fonts are much better. The information doesn't seem to go as deep as it did in either my website or the other actual member's version (such as all the old photos and news articles), but at least it has improved somewhat.

I haven't been a member for a couple of years since I wasn't enjoying going anymore and I expected to be in New Hampshire by now.

Anyway, we will see if hrnyslr22 has anything more to say.

[stickyvicky]

Yeah it's pretty disappointing when you work your ass off on something, spend a shit ton of money on designers and graphics, then someone says you should have just used a template.... for template sites look at Model Centro or Adult Time.... There's a reason it's free, and each of our sites cost $1500-2000 out of my pocket (not the model's).

But that seems to be the way of the future, all the sites are getting "dumbed down", no character, no personality... just look at Onlyfans (hugely successful) to see that.... so I guess no one cares about design anymore...

[WalterB]

....and that's a shame. I envy folks who can design things. I've mentioned before how I like a program on Sundy's here called "How It's Made." Of course, I'm a technical kind of guy, so I'm interested in how things work.

I like good design capabilities, too. Where "How It's Made" is concerned, I start thinking about who designed the machines that are used to make the products. Lots of engineering there. And when someone can design are, for example (like a website,) I envy that as well. I could never match colors or have no clue what might work together. I tried my hand at designing a site a few years ago. Wasn't at all successful. I gave up fairly quickly, lol.

[WalterB]

There are numerous sites that don't understand the color "Black." Light grey on a white background is simply insane. Why not make it light yellow? That's even harder to see, lol. MAKE YOUR TEXT BLACK! (Of course, I really have no opinion on the subject. )

[ErikB]

There are numerous sites that don't understand the color "Black." Light grey on a white background is simply insane. Why not make it light yellow? That's even harder to see, lol. MAKE YOUR TEXT BLACK! (Of course, I really have no opinion on the subject. )

I once was gifted a subscription to a magazine where they were experimenting with "art" over function in the labels for photographs and tables. They started putting complete sentences in parenthesis inside other sentences without the two being all that tightly coupled. They also were printing some sentences in black and others in lighter greyish. I read online that the idea behind the new color scheme was that some information is less important than others. By using lighter text for less important stuff, people who were looking for only the very important stuff could just read the black text. I have no idea what the idea was behind interrupting a sentence with another complete sentence.

The two-different-contrasts idea has two main flaws for me. First, it assumes the author knows what the reader is interested in, or SHOULD be interested in, and is using the contrast to "steer the experience" for the reader. Which I think is very presumptuous. Second, other people who aren't aware of the reason for the new style simply figure its the new style and start putting ALL of their text in light grey. First it started just with the annotations to pictures and graphs. Then it spread to the main body of the articles. So I suspect we end up with grey on white web pages because the people who put them together don't know what they're doing.

[ErikB]

Yeah it's pretty disappointing when you work your ass off on something, spend a shit ton of money on designers and graphics, then someone says you should have just used a template.... for template sites look at Model Centro or Adult Time.... There's a reason it's free, and each of our sites cost $1500-2000 out of my pocket (not the model's).

But that seems to be the way of the future, all the sites are getting "dumbed down", no character, no personality... just look at Onlyfans (hugely successful) to see that.... so I guess no one cares about design anymore...

Yeah, that's another thing. I paid for the domain while I was hosting the website. The last year before they decided to change webmasters, a couple of club members who were professional graphics designers worked with me to make the website even more attractive than I had made it, and without sacrificing the cleanliness and efficiencies I was dedicated to. It was really nice. I hated to see it migrated to a "free" hosting service (with all the Google spyware in the source code indicating why it was "free") with a lame template-based layout.