WalterB wrote:OK, I posted a response in the cam show thread before I saw this. So I'll move that response here.
I appreciate everyones support. First, I've mentioned before that I mostly support the VNA girls. I simply do not have the time, with all of my projects around home, to be able to support all of the cam girls. It is small now, but I envision Camz, or Streamate, or some of the other networks where there are 30 or 40 or more girls. Even as members of the VNA Cam Show system, there is simply no way to support them all. So, I support the VNA, and will get to other shows as my schedule allows. Also, VIcky mentioned to me that I only need to Admin at the VNA shows when needed, as at least "most" of the non-VNA cam girls would be bringing their own moderators. However, if I were at a non-VNA show and there were no Mod, and someone started getting Jiggy, I would not hesitate to step in and say something. The only need to be careful is learning what the girl might be accepting of. Some seem to like the "harsher" comments. But I would hope I could step in at the right point, if need be.
Now, do I have a right to complain about a girl when I am not a paying member of her site? On the one hand, no. But, on the other hand, as a full supporter of the VNA, maybe I do. Most everyone knows that I personally met Vicky a little less than a year after her site first went live. It was Vicky all 'by herself at that point. And I have been a member ever since - coming up on 7 years. Vicky is the sweetest, nicest person I think I've ever met. I remember one other friend of mine (gone now - Love you, Marla,) that had the same gigantic heart and love of her fellow man. I have tried my best to support Vicky in every way I can. Pretty limited, actually, but I did go to 3 of her first members get-togethers, and I try to get to most Adultcons, not only to hang out, but to help.
So, I try to support the full VNA, as it is Vickys domain, and Vickys love. Believe me, all of the VNA ladies have been very loving and accepting of me. And I so appreciate that. And, to my limited knowledge, all of the VNA ladies seem to be very nice and happy people. Rokkerr, I know they have full schedules. I tried to make that point clear. I was not complaining about the schedule changes, I was complaining about the very last minute notifications to us, some of which are avoidable. And, yes, I fully understand that some last minute changes can't be helped. I know I have talked to Vicky about this before. But, what sparked this was three "no-shows" in two days. And at least one of those knew full well days in advance.
Most all also know that TheOldFart can get a little excitable on occasion. I do not mean to, and I hope I didn't, alienate any of the ladies. The hope, should any of them read this, is that it makes them think; to make them see us as people with lives, too. We love you, ladies, and we love what you do for us. To those who are thoughtful of us, and who do give as much notice as possible to Vicky I say Thank you. To those who may forget, or who seem to think that Twitter is proper, please. Twitter is not proper notification to Vicky that you can't make a show. You have her number. If you can pick up your phone and Tweet something, you can pick it up and send a quick text. It's a courtesy to Vicky, and it's a courtesy to us - The Fans who love you.
Oh, and I'm not "Mad." I think, more frustrated.
I do agree with you 100%, Walt
& yes, it's not the point that the girls have their business & have to do a shoot first, second a camshow.
The point is, not to be informed in time!
e.g. Due to the time difference between USA & Europe, I have to take a "beautisleep" for 3 to 4 hours, to survive the cam shows deep in the night.
I set my clockradio, get up & prepare for a show.
Then, if I check the VNA schedule & find everything changed or canceled, you can imagine that I'm feeling a little bit disappointed, sometimes.
Never mind! I'm a die hard VNA fan...
I remember the times when the old system was unstable with so many tech issues + the daily business + only 6 girls... and happy for every minute I could see them, anyways!
From that point of view, Vicky & Rokkerr did a super job to set up such an awesome community.
& Rokkerr, you are right if you state that the VNA is growing so fast...too fast?
29 girls are way too much for me, so the consequence is that I have to choose my favorites and their cam shows.
The others I'll watch if my schedule allows it, like Walt is doing it.
I'm feeling myself as a VNA member. I choose the VNA girls, mainly.
The growing has some consequences for you & Vicky, too.
You need help, because you can't work 24/7/365. To allow some members to admin was a good idea, me thinks.
& I'm happy you trusted me & gave me an admin account.... BTW, how many admins do we have? 10? Isn't that enough?
Walt is right, its not always necessary the login as an admin. I for e.g. can change my login within 10 seconds & can step in when there is a riot in a show.
BTW, we should create a short list for the admins, what to do during a show. Or an admin thread to exchange experiences?
Growing & new technologies...When I began my membership in the VNA, twitter was not that established like todays.
Now it is an important platform for the business. & it is easy to handle... with any smartphone app... always in your pocket... quick & dirty.
The girls like it because they can text anything in short time... but is that their base platform?
I don't think so! Why? Their own site is the platform because there, the paying members are entering the girl's world.
We have so many technologies, social networks, different hardware... etc...etc...
You need some kind of format for the tech which is used by the girls. (Pornstar Format
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& Yes Rokkerr, some girls are "blond" with tech... but like anyone else who has a job they HAVE To learn to manage their tools!
The tailor has his needle...the carpenter his hammer... the mechanik his wrench... & the cam girls their PC's and smartphones.
If they don't know much about it they can create checklists or to do lists, when this or that happens.
To come to a good end, we, the members, are the fans who do our best to support our beloved girls.
We love what they are doing, are considerate of them and respect them, and I think, we deserve some respect as well.
Is it so much work to inform Vicky, that she can change the schedule in time?
Just typing an SMS, email...or whatever...
I don't want to speculate about the "behind the scenes" matter, Rokkerr.
An endless theme.
Just one point: most of the members who get disappointed once go quietly and penalize the girl with absence...
Yours
Carl
PS: its not a drama, Rokkerr...but it's important... just my two cents...
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